<fr.tanderson@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Ok, I'll bite: You are now and forever restricted from ANY foods that
conatin ANY carbs at all.
Where do I send the black roses?
Loser...

Whatever happened to that doctor Chung who knew what the universe was
abouit? Did he die already?

Jim Bard wrote:

Nope. He's now also infesting other groups, but take heart. He'll
undoubtedly be back around with a new, improved macro to annoy you.

Pastorio

"Bob (this one)" <Bob@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:10q39fsgd8jd460@corp.supernews.com...
LOL!!! Thanks for the warning!

"Jim Bard" <jeb77901@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<10q35qih6l0dd0e@corp.supernews.com>...
I am here.

I am "born again" :-)

On topic for the subject of whether to eat carbs:

My Lord and Savior teaches that we should eat our carbs with fish by
His example of feeding 5000 people with five small loaves of bread and
two small fish.

It is written in Ephesians 2:

10For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good
works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.

All is a waste of time until you find the way to eternal life with the
Creator of the universe. When you do, there is no waste of time
because there will be an infinite amount of it. Walking about
aimlessly thinking it is *your* time, *your* money, *your* lot, *your*
labor, *your* profit, and *your* power that you are using is
tantamount to self-worship.

For Christ lights up the way through John 14:

6Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one
comes to the Father except through me..."

This bring us back again to the following very simple decision tree
for the untruthful folks such as yourself, Jim, who have chosen to
walk in the "dark":

(1) Accept Christ.
Risk: Nothing.

Benefits: Salvation, purposeful life, eternal life, unimaginable
riches in God's eternal kingdom.

(2) Reject Christ.
Risk: Eternal separation from God. Eternal torment of your soul by
satan.

Benefits: Nothing.

Again, one has to conclude that those (ie you, Carey, Steve, Bob, Zee,
Frank, Hawki, Rolando, Don et al) who would reject Christ have not
thought out their decision *logically*.

Would suggest you cast a glance at Bob Pastorio as a special example
of untruthfully eloquent self-worship (BTW, Bob remains in my prayers
out of Christian love) who is being driven to madness by my ignoring
him (http://makeashorterlink.com/?V29A236C9 and more recently
http://makeashorterlink.com/?K50B237D9). All this power belongs to
God who has judged Bob Pastorio with His Word
(http://makeashorterlink.com/?G33F51E69). All praises to Him, Whom I
love with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength :-)

You will be in my prayers, dear Jim whom I love, in Christ's holy
name.

May you accept Christ as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so
that you too will escape satan's rule and torment of your soul after
you die.

Please do consider the following as your logic should dictate before
it is too late:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

(Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He
is the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2
which is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments,
the 2 arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger
sign of the Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and
satan], and the 2PD Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ
did not make His presence known here on Usenet :-)


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Andrew

--
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Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com/

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In article <815c94d6.0411232101.22773d35@posting.google.com>,
nospam6@heartmdphd.com (Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD) wrote:

Was he feeding fat people? Maybe if they'd been fat, he would have just
given them the fish.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

"Luna" <lunachick@NOSPAMmindspring.com> wrote in message
news:lunachick-8093C2.00054824112004@news1.east.earthlink.net...
Excellent point!
But then what does Chung know, he's a complete moron.

JD

Luna <lunachick@NOSPAMmindspring.com> wrote in message news:<lunachick-8093C2.00054824112004@news1.east.earthlink.net>...
They came in all sizes and shapes.

All ate their fill that day. They could have eatened until they
exploded but they did not because God was with them. Each day He gives
us bread. When we get fat, it is because we eat too much of it out of
fear that He will stop feeding us. We simply need to remember that He
keeps telling us that He will not stop giving us our daily bread.

It is written in Ephesians 2:

10For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good
works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.

All is a waste of time until you find the way to eternal life with the
Creator of the universe. When you do, there is no waste of time
because there will be an infinite amount of it. Walking about
aimlessly thinking it is *your* time, *your* money, *your* lot, *your*
labor, *your* profit, and *your* power that you are using is
tantamount to self-worship.

For Christ lights up the way through John 14:

6Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one
comes to the Father except through me..."

This bring us back again to the following very simple decision tree
for you to consider:

(1) Accept Christ.
Risk: Nothing.

Benefits: Salvation, purposeful life, eternal life, unimaginable
riches in God's eternal kingdom.

(2) Reject Christ.
Risk: Eternal separation from God. Eternal torment of your soul by
satan.

Benefits: Nothing.

Again, one has to conclude that those (ie Carey, Steve, Bob, Zee,
Frank, Hawki, Rolando, Don et al) who would reject Christ have not
thought out their decision *logically*.

Would suggest you cast a glance at Bob Pastorio as a special example
of untruthfully eloquent self-worship (BTW, Bob remains in my prayers
out of Christian love) who is being driven to madness by my ignoring
him (http://makeashorterlink.com/?V29A236C9 and more recently
http://makeashorterlink.com/?K50B237D9). All this power belongs to
God who has judged Bob Pastorio with His Word
(http://makeashorterlink.com/?G33F51E69). All praises to Him, Whom I
love with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength :-)

You will be in my prayers, dear neighbor whom I love, in Christ's holy
name.

May you accept Christ as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so
that you too will escape satan's rule and torment of your soul after
you die.

Please do consider the OP as your logic should dictate before it is
too late:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

(Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He
is the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2
which is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments,
the 2 arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger
sign of the Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and
satan], and the 2PD Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ
did not make His presence known here on Usenet :-)


Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com/

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nospam6@heartmdphd.com (Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD) wrote:

He was not teaching that carbs should be eaten with fish. To make your
claim, you would also have to claim he was teaching that bread and
fish should not be eaten with fruit and vegetables.

You mean that if God is not with people, they will overeat. So if a
person overeats, God is not with him.

Nonsense. I have never overeaten out of fear God would not give me
more food.

But many people often stop getting their daily bread, so your claim is
obviously false.

That verse doesn't illustrate anything you said.

I am relieved I won't have to go to a vindictive father like that.

Snake oil salesman. You have just disqualified yourself.

Nonsense. Your logic is founded only on *your* faith. No facts.

"Martin W. Smith" wrote:

That would be your choice to disagree.

An observation is not a claim.

I have written plainly.

That is not what I have written.

Then why do you overeat ?

Cite one example when God has not provided for His people.

It explains why I am here.

Father that gives up His only Son for your sins hardly sounds like someOne vindictive.

A decision tree is hardly a sales pitch.

Logic is subordinate to the truth.

You will be in my prayers, dear Martin whom I love, in Christ's holy name.


Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com/

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JD Howell wrote:

Ouch. You may have at the other cheek.

You remain in my prayers, dear neighbor whom I love, in Christ's precious name.



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Andrew

--
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"Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" schrieb:
Ireland, 1846-1851. Just one example of many.

HTH,

Thorsten

--
"Nothing in biology makes sense, except in the light of evolution"

(Theodosius Dobzhansky)

Thorsten Schier <Finrod_Felagund@gmx.de> wrote in message news:<41A4A2DA.868DF4DF@gmx.de>...
A country in famine does not mean that everyone was starving.

You remain in my prayers, dear Thorsten whom I love, in Christ's holy
name.

Please do consider the following before it is too late:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

(Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He
is the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2
which is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments,
the 2 arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger
sign of the Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and
satan], and the 2PD Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ
did not make His presence known here on Usenet :-)


Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com/

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"Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam6@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:815c94d6.0411241735.656c113a@posting.google.c om...
And the number 2 finger pointed straight up and at you............ idiot!

"Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote:

"My Lord and Savior teaches that we should eat our carbs with fish by
His example of feeding 5000 people with five small loaves of bread and
two small fish."

That's a claim.

Yes, it is. You wrote that they did not over eat "because" God was
with them. The meaning of that statement is that God caused them not
to overeat.

I like chocolate chip cookies.

The Third Reich.

Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

<LOL> And because not *everyone* was starving, the Quacko-Wacko Chung
seems to think that all is well and that Jesus is providing for His
people.

Ok, listen up. It has to be that *all* the people are starving or it
doesn't count, according to Chung. Could he be more round the bend...?

Bob

Martin W. Smith wrote:
Only for those who are not walking with Him and learning His ways.

Sorry, it is not.

Here is what I wrote:

" They could have eatened until they exploded but they did not because
God was with them."

It remains my choice to refrain from judging others (to say someone has
overeaten is a judgment).

I have written plainly.

More than your own life ?

There were some who received their daily bread even during the Third
Reich.

It is written in Ephesians 2:

10For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good
works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.

All is a waste of time until you find the way to eternal life with the
Creator of the universe. When you do, there is no waste of time because
there will be an infinite amount of it. Walking about aimlessly
thinking it is *your* time, *your* money, *your* lot, *your* labor,
*your* profit, and *your* power that you are using is tantamount to
self-worship.

For Christ lights up the way through John 14:

6Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes
to the Father except through me..."

This bring us back again to the following very simple decision tree for
the untruthful folks such as yourself, Martin, who have chosen to walk
in the "dark":

(1) Accept Christ.
Risk: Nothing.

Benefits: Salvation, purposeful life, eternal life, unimaginable riches
in God's eternal kingdom.

(2) Reject Christ.
Risk: Eternal separation from God. Eternal torment of your soul by
satan.

Benefits: Nothing.

Again, one has to conclude that those (ie you, Carey, Steve, Bob, Zee,
Frank, Hawki, Rolando, Don et al) who would reject Christ have not
thought out their decision *logically*.

Would suggest you cast a glance at Bob Pastorio as a special example of
untruthfully eloquent self-worship (BTW, Bob remains in my prayers out
of Christian love) who is being driven to madness by my ignoring him
(http://makeashorterlink.com/?V29A236C9 and more recently
http://makeashorterlink.com/?K50B237D9). All this power belongs to God
who has judged Bob Pastorio with His Word
(http://makeashorterlink.com/?G33F51E69). All praises to Him, Whom I
love with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength :-)

You will be in my prayers, dear Martin whom I love, in Christ's holy
name.

May you accept Christ as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that
you too will escape satan's rule and torment of your soul after you die.

Please do consider the following as your logic should dictate before it
is too late:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

(Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His
presence known here on Usenet :-)


Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com/

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JD Howell wrote:
Ouch. You may have at the other cheek.


Untrue.

See:

http://makeshorterling.com/?A38621439

It is written in Ephesians 2:

10For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good
works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.

All is a waste of time until you find the way to eternal life with the
Creator of the universe. When you do, there is no waste of time because
there will be an infinite amount of it. Walking about aimlessly
thinking it is *your* time, *your* money, *your* lot, *your* labor,
*your* profit, and *your* power that you are using is tantamount to
self-worship.

For Christ lights up the way through John 14:

6Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes
to the Father except through me..."

This bring us back again to the following very simple decision tree for
the untruthful folks such as yourself, neighbor, who have chosen to walk
in the "dark":

(1) Accept Christ.
Risk: Nothing.

Benefits: Salvation, purposeful life, eternal life, unimaginable riches
in God's eternal kingdom.

(2) Reject Christ.
Risk: Eternal separation from God. Eternal torment of your soul by
satan.

Benefits: Nothing.

Again, one has to conclude that those (ie you, Carey, Steve, Bob, Zee,
Frank, Hawki, Rolando, Don et al) who would reject Christ have not
thought out their decision *logically*.

Would suggest you cast a glance at Bob Pastorio as a special example of
untruthfully eloquent self-worship (BTW, Bob remains in my prayers out
of Christian love) who is being driven to madness by my ignoring him
(http://makeashorterlink.com/?V29A236C9 and more recently
http://makeashorterlink.com/?K50B237D9). All this power belongs to God
who has judged Bob Pastorio with His Word
(http://makeashorterlink.com/?G33F51E69). All praises to Him, Whom I
love with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength :-)

You will be in my prayers, dear neighbor whom I love, in Christ's holy
name.

May you accept Christ as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that
you too will escape satan's rule and torment of your soul after you die.

Please do consider the following as your logic should dictate before it
is too late:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

(Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His
presence known here on Usenet :-)


Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com/

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"Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote:

It's a claim. Look up claim. Whether an observation is a claim doesn't
depend on who you are walking with. Nor does it depend on whether your
observation is true or false. You claimed Jesus was teaching proper
diet to the people to whom he provided food. He wasn't teaching them
about proper diet. He was feeding them food they were all accustomed
to eating. Bread and fish were staples of the diet.

Also, for your claim to be true, you would have to also mean he
intended that the people should *not* eat fruit and vegetables, since
he didn't provide any. Since he would have been wrong, you would be
claiming Jesus' teaching was wrong.

You can squirm all you want. I note that you were squirming in a
similar way last time I corresponded with you months ago. You seem to
paint yourself into these corners every time you open your mouth. Ask
Jesus for help. This how you should pray: Dear Jesus, please help me
to do no harm.

That certainly is what you wrote. The word "because" means God caused
them not to overeat. ie God prevented them from overeating. That leads
to the inevitable conclusion that a person who overeats is either not
with God, or God's being with them doesn't make any difference with
respect to overeating. Either way, your conclusion that God is what
prevents overeating is silly.

That's a wonderful attitude, but I don't see how it applies, since I
didn't judge anyone but you, and my judgement was not about your
overeating but about your spouting gibberish.

Yes, you have. You plainly wrote gibberish.

Why would you think I like cookies more than I like my life? Nor am I
overweight. I sometimes overeat because I like the food I'm eating. If
I gain weight over my ideal, I lose it again.

Actually, like everyone else (except you, of course), my life is shit.
I never ate a cookie I didn't like.

But a great many didn't, and they were God's people.

Martin W. Smith <no.email@this.time> wrote in message news:<pbhbq0tppp5onuku5m8s74etuepov05mnn@4ax.com>. ..

A good prayer for us all I think Martin as we can all think and
express ourselves in harmful ways at times. We _all_ fall short of
God's greater glory.


No, with God all things are put aside for Him, including an empty
stomach. Sadly we are all human's, it is our nature to be sinners. So
we return to moments when we need prayer to bring Him close to us
again and we need His Word to fill us. You cannot be overfed on God's
Word, even when it is offered through His disciples or the ministers
they have fished for, all will be with His Holy Spirit.


I like cookies too. Over eating is our collective sin, and it's
something we sin at very well too! Why attack those who look for ways
to deal with its outcome?

We give food out of love, we eat it out of love, so why not talk about
it in a loving way with each other?

In Christ's love
Carol T