hi, all

recently i noticed that my memory is not as good as before. sometimes
during conversation or outings, i couldn't recall a name, a thing which
i used to be familiar with. this happened in more than one occation.
for example, last weekend, i stopped by Barnes & Noble to have a read,
it reminds me of another major retailing bookstore i used to check out,
but for a while, i couldn't recall the name 'Borders'. later on, it
came to me like a flash, but this bothers me - how i could forget that
name - even though i haven't been to either bookstore for a while.

i'm still a young guy and this kind of memory loss shouldn't be
happening to me. any suggestion how to improve one's memory and
prevent such memory loss?

thanks

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read my amyloid series, click on the links and you will
find that this is part of a larger aging problem, a vaccine or
pill will be out shortly that will reverse than and a wide
range of other damages.

Meantime and with spectacular results available are a range
of neurotropic 'food suppliments'...that produce superb
results by unknown means. You can search those on google

www.beyond-a-century.com is a good sourse.

160 mg of Ginko billoba a day will also produce miracles.


Your early memory loss is not a good sign. if alzheimers is
in your family that is especially true. These amyloid
plaques build up from partial protien debris ...see the
microscope slide photo's in two of the links. People with
leak gut syndrom go south first.. an interim solution is to
fast on raw vegitable juices and when not fasting take
vegitable enzymes before bed and in the AM then delay
breakfast an hour or so.


Phil Scott

university I forgot my own name. I honestly simply could not remember
it. I passed the exam, but had to wait for the name to resurface before
writing that information on the first page. I guess you could say I
developed advanced Alzheimers as a young man, while severely sleep
deprived. Fortunately sleep seems to possess a remarkable restorative
function. My name is ......

In article <1122525103.537234.100990@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>,
xiongnu@my-deja.com wrote:

Hello,
Are you taking any medications such as statins? If you are taking any
medications, check the info. that you can get for free from your
pharmacist.
It might tell you whether or not the medication can cause memory loss.
I had to stop taking statins due to muscle pain and memory problems.
Jason

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hi,

i sleep about 5~ 6 hours on average, sometimes less. i knew i should
have gone to sleep early each night since i need to get up at 6am for
work, but everyday there's some nitty little things need to be taken
care of, so when i finally go to bed, it's usually after 12 midnight.

it seems like i really need to make some change about my schedule for
more sleeping time, thanks for the remark

hi,

i'm currently taking lovastatin (40mg/day) to lower my cholesterol
level, it's been a month now. is that what caused the problem?

my doctor didn't mention anything about the side effects of memory loss
when she wrote me the prescription last month

In article <1122610310.572817.172970@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>,
xiongnu@my-deja.com wrote:

Hello,
Yes, lovastatin can cause memory problems. You are also taking a high
dose. Lovastatin comes in 4 dosage levels--10mg, 20mg, 40mg and 80 mg. I
suggest that you visit any large book store and buy or order the following
book:
WHAT YOU MUST KNOW ABOUT STATIN DRUGS AND THEIR NATURAL ALTERNATIVES
by Jay S. Cohen, M.D.

I am not a doctor. You should stop making use of the medication until
after you discuss your memory problems with your doctor.
Jason

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In article <jason-2907050830390001@pm4-broad-23.snlo.dialup.fix.net>,
Jason <jason@nospam.com> wrote:
Jason is not a doctor, and is also quite unbright, meaning you should
take medical advice (like stopping medication) from him at your peril.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
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natural things that money can buy."
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In article <EiTGe.2084$gQ5.997@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com>,
wright@l1000.prodigy.net (David Wright) wrote:

David,
Great try but you failed. You misquoted what I wrote.
My actual statement was:
....you should stop making use of the medication UNTIL AFTER YOU DISCUSS
YOUR MEMORY PROBEMS WITH YOUR DOCTOR."
I have a feeling that aimost every person that reads this post agrees that
you are the one that is "quite unbright". If you are going to criticize
someone, please at least quote them correctly and honestly or don't
criticize they at all.
Jason
Jason

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In article <jason-3007051738100001@pm1-broad-119.snlo.dialup.fix.net>,
Jason <jason@nospam.com> wrote:
Jason, I don't know if you're under the impression that you told the
original poster to not stop taking his meds, bur if you are, you left
out the word "not."

If you did intend to tell him to stop taking his meds, you are giving
medical advice even though you are not a doctor.

Either way, my characterization of you as "unbright" stands.

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natural things that money can buy."
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In article <vc8He.79$LE2.40@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com>,
wright@l1000.prodigy.net (David Wright) wrote:

My characterization of you as "unbright" also stands for quoting me out of
context in order to make a point. I know for a fact that there is no
danger in not taking statin pills for several days. Several days ago, a
person stated that he vomited every time he took his medication. Would you
have told him to keep taking the medication (and vomited it up) until he
talked to his doctor? You don't seem to have any common sense.
Do you work for a company that makes statins?
Jason

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hi,

here's my lab report:

cholesterol: 314 mg/dl
HDL: 62 mg/dl
non-HDL cholesterol: 252 mg/dl
triglyceride: 105 mg/dl
LDL: 231 mg/dl

i'm 32 yrs old and in good health, and i'm not a big-eater

hi,

i've bought the book and is reading it, i didn't know much about
cholesterol and its related risk until now, very good read

and i'll discuss with my doctor about my problems this week

thanks again

oh, as i said before, i'm not a big meat-eater. i seldom eat junk
foods (hamburgers, KFC etc), sanwiches and rice/vegatibles are my main
diets.

besides cholesterol, my lab report also shows glucose and CBC readings,
all are within the normal range

my doctor ran a liver test on me (results are fine) before she told me
to go ahead with my prescription. i don't have the report though

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xiongnu@my-deja.com wrote:

You are welcome. Glad to have helped.
Jason

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In article <1122864815.046260.130560@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups .com>,
xiongnu@my-deja.com wrote:

After you get the prescription, tell us what it written on the container.
You should buy this book and read it.
WHAT YOU MUST KNOW ABOUT STATIN DRUGS AND THEIR NATURAL ALTERNATIVES
by Jay S. Cohen, M.D.

You can buy it or order it at any bookstore.

While at the the bookstore, buy a book related to the "Mediterranean Diet".

If you want to bring down your LDL (bad) cholesterol, you need to change
your diet and start an exercise program.
Jason

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Pramesh Rutajit wrote in response to xiongnu@my-deja.com:
A very important point, i'd like to second this. At the very least
supplement 120mg or so spread during the day. If money is no problem go
ahead and take more. trials indicate that maximum benefitial dose can be
up to 1200 - 2400mg with no reported downsides.

Also you might want to look into policosanol as an alternative to
synthetic statins. It is much slower in ramping up to full effect
(easily three months or so) but many find it equally effective while
less expensive and with less sideeffects.

I hope this helps and as always consult your doctor to be (relatively) safe.

Regards
Curious
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Hi,
Hi LDL is always serious, but evidence that has been accumulating
in the last two to three years indicates that the risk multiplies very
rapidly with elevated iron levels. Both should come down, but one or
the other must. Phlebotomy is certain to control iron levels.
While I've seen nothing on gender or glucose level
stratification, I would guess the problem is worse for women and
diabetics.

Thomas

Hi,
Forgot to attach my refs. They are just two of a growing number.

Thomas


2: Am J Epidemiol. 2005 Jun 15;161(12):1115-22. Related Articles, Links

Iron, lipids, and risk of cancer in the Framingham Offspring cohort.
Mainous AG 3rd, Wells BJ, Koopman RJ, Everett CJ, Gill JM.
Department of Family Medicine, Medical University of South Carolina,
295 Calhoun Street, Charleston, SC 29425, USA. mainouag@musc.edu
Iron and lipids combine to create oxidative stress, and
oxidative stress has a role in the development of cancer. The objective
was to determine the risk of cancer among persons who had both elevated
iron and lipids. The authors conducted an analysis of the cohort
available in the Framingham Offspring Study. Adults aged 30 or more
years at baseline had serum iron and high density lipoprotein
cholesterol (HDL-C), low density lipoprotein cholesterol, and very low
density lipoprotein cholesterol (VLDL-C) assessed in 1979-1982 and were
followed for development of cancer until 1996-1997 (n = 3,278). Cox
regression models were computed while controlling for age, gender,
smoking status, and body mass index. In adjusted models, both elevated
iron (hazard ratio (HR) = 1.66, 95% confidence interval (CI): 1.11,
2.46; 29 cases) and VLDL-C (HR = 1.54, 95% CI: 1.04, 2.28; 93 cases)
had significant independent risks for development of cancer. When
elevated iron was combined with elevated VLDL-C, the adjusted relative
risk of cancer increased (HR = 2.68, 95% CI: 1.49, 4.83; 18 cases).
Elevated iron and low HDL-C also had a significant adjusted relative
risk of cancer (HR = 2.82, 95% CI: 1.50, 5.28; 14 cases). The results
suggest that elevated serum iron levels coupled with either high VLDL-C
or low HDL-C appear to interact to increase cancer risk in this
cohort.PMID: 15937020 ……………………………..
6: Fam Med. 2004 May;36(5):324-9. Related Articles, Links
The combined effect of transferrin saturation and low density
lipoprotein on mortality.
Wells BJ, Mainous AG 3rd, King DE, Gill JM, Carek PJ, Geesey ME.
Department of Family Medicine, Medical University of South Carolina,
Charleston 29425, USA. wellsbj@musc.edu
BACKGROUND AND OBJECTIVES: Evidence suggests that
cardiovascular disease (CVD) is accelerated by the oxidation of
low-density lipoprotein (LDL) in the presence of iron. This study
examined whether adults with elevated iron, as measured by transferrin
saturation (TS), and elevated LDL are at an increased risk for
mortality. METHODS: This is a cohort study of the adult US population
using the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey 1976-1980
(NHANES II) merged with the NHANES II Mortality Study in 1992.
Multivariate Cox regression was performed to determine hazard ratios
(HR) for CVD and all-cause mortality for high (>55%) or low (<55%)
levels of TS and high (>160 mg/dl) or low (<160 mg/dl) levels of LDL.
RESULTS: An elevated LDL alone did not significantly increase CVD
mortality or all-cause mortality in the adjusted model. Individuals
with elevated LDL and elevated TS had a statistically significant
increase in both CVD mortality and all-cause mortality (HR=5.74 and
3.53, respectively) compared to the low LDL and low TS group.
CONCLUSIONS: The results of this study indicate an increased risk
associated with the combination of elevated LDL and elevated TS, which
suggests that iron-mediated oxidation of LDL may be a significant
factor in the progression of CVD.
PMID: 15129378

Hi,

I have had the same kind of memory problems. I used to have an excellent
memory, but then suddenly I could see the difference with the years passing.
It all started at around 25. Today I am 42 and I do have ocasionnally
situations where I do not remember the name of a person or I find myself
saying the same thing twice or three times to the same person.

My pressure: 110/70
Total cholesterol: 233
HDL: 49
LDL: 166
CRP: 0.9
Testosterone: 374
Free Testosterone: 14.7
Triglycerides: 92

I take polycosanol, COQ10 and a variety of other vitamins and substances
like Cognitex for Vinpocetine. NO statins.

Any ideas?

Stefan

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