"Trilby" <psb2@midway.uchicago.edu> wrote in message
news:gLrdb.78$%4.25149@news.uchicago.edu...
Yeah, that is me right now. I normally go barefaced about 4 days a week (or
at maximum my "1 minute face" ) but I dyed my hair a brighter shade of
red this week, and I *have* to wear a full face now until it fades a
little.. otherwise I look like a pasty-white Goth-girl (nothing wrong with
that, mind you, it's just not the look I am aiming for).

I can definitely appreciate not wanting to leave the house without makeup,
though. If it were an everyday thing, it would be a self-esteem issue, but
some days I just feel nasty looking without some help from my
dresser-dwelling friends... or at least my sunglasses and hat. I don't
think that's abnormal.

Jennifer

On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 15:37:13 GMT, rosie read and post wrote:

They can be fixed by having to have surgery. The anesthesiologist
needs to look at their natural coloration without being turned some
fake color that makes them look oxygenated when they aren't!

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Offshore a CEO: buy an ADR!

This is another huge difference between English and American people. I too
felt a lot more self conscious running into people without wearing makeup at
home, while over here even if people did notice, they would consider it too
rude to comment. This of course has its downside as well, as for when I lost
weight two years ago, no one ever even mentioned it! I had to ask someone that
I really trusted and of course they had noticed but it's not considered polite
to comment on personal appearance over here. The next summer I came to school
for bright blue extension pieces woven into my hair from the Edinburgh Fringe
Festival and no one even batted an eye!


Maurey (remove "no junk" from my address to email me)
__________________________________________________ __________________
"Home is within me. I carry everyone and everything I am with me wherever I
go"

~Suheir Hammad, Palestinian/US poet

You don't mention your age, but I didn't want to be seen without makeup during
my teens and early/mid 20s. Since then, I've become more relaxed about it, and
if there's something I want to do, I'd never let my lack of makeup stand in the
way. I've realized other people are so busy worrying about their own bad hair
day and their own skin issues that they're not scrutinizing me. And even if
they are, so what? I'll either a) never see them again anyway, or b) will make
a better impression the 2nd time around.

I do wear makeup as a general rule, though, because I adore it. Besides, I
have so much of it, I can't afford to NOT wear it daily -- heck, as it is, I'm
already going to have to make provisions in my will for my cosmetics stash.

Stephanie

I *can* go out without make-up, I just prefer not to. It takes me 2 seconds
to put on eyeshadow, mascara, and lipstick so why wouldn't I? It makes me
feel better, makes me look more alive. The only times recently I can think
of when I went without make-up was to either take the kids to the emergency
room or to take myself there.

I hear you. I have never left the house without makeup. As Audrey
said, sunglasses and lipstick would most likely work, but I just don't
have the nerve.

Janice

Up until a few years ago, I would regularly leave the house with no makeup on.
Now that I've crossed that bridge of being 'middle aged' and my coloring has
faded some, I always wear makeup when going out. The only time I haven't was
in emergency type situations where time was short (as in being called to the ER
for my mom). I think I'd run to a convenience store for a newspaper without
makeup though, and not really care too much about it. The times I've had minor
surgery I wasn't able to wear makeup, but still went out and made stops on the
way there. It doesn't take long before you forget you don't have makeup on and
it doesn't matter at all.

Linda

Wow. I wear makeup for me and no one else. I really don't give a shit
what others think. There are times when I got my nails done without
makeup, just because I didn't want to. . .

But if people are that self-conscious about themselves, there is
always permanent makeup. My nail tech now does it, and did it on
herself first before she started offering it. . .before she was a very
no-makeup kinda girl. She had another girl in her class do her
permanent eyeliner and the girl created the most incredible subtle
thin line of eyeliner for her. Really insanely great eyeliner.

The reason I'm not considering the eyeliner is that I have bad
undereye circles, and I'm afraid I would have to reapply eyeliner
anyway when I got sloppy with the concealer.

I find it quite ironic that you find it sad that someone doesn't leave the
house without makeup when you can't leave the house without first posting to
numerous newsgroups, not to mention defending this obsession by encouraging
others to *read and post daily*. Sheesh. Hardly one to judge other's quirks
IMHO.

As a matter of fact, my foundation has sunblock in it and I far prefer that on
my face as it is light and comfortable, to regular sunblock, and no, I would
not leave the house without sunblock.



HTH
DG

I think I have to make myself a bit clearer: I was talking about having
moments when I feel like that. I really don't have that feeling everyday.
Although I prefer to wear make-up, I have moments that I really don't care
about it. I just brush my hear, clean my face, put on some mascara and
that's it. Yesterday was a day I just couldn't bring myself to do that.
Especially in summer I care less. I almost never wear foundation in summer.
When my face is tanned a bit, and the sun is shining, and I put on a nice
summerdress, I feel like I don't need it.
I haven't considered permanent make-up yet, and I think I never will. I
agree with what DeB said, for me, doing my face is a pleasure too. I would
miss that if I had permanent make-up. I also don't want it because it's too
definitive, like tattoos.

Elisa

Unfortunately, that's me every weekday on the rush to work. Whereas
this would have bothered me a few years ago, I've changed. I basically
don't care what people think of me anymore..maybe it's the 911 thing.
Plus, I have huge confidence in my smile...
xoxolali

"Els" <eyehrev@heatmail.com> wrote in message news:<zchdb.43869$My4.2081861@phobos.telenet-ops.be>...

Oh, totally been there! :-) My compromise is to use tinted
moisturizer, a little pressed powder and tinted lipbalm. That's what I
have been doing when I've been flying and want to be comfortable/low
maintenance but presentable.

Regeneriste, OoO powder foundation, eyebrows and lipgloss. That's sun
protection and don't-scare-the-children protection.

x-no-archive: yes

Els quoted someone who wrote:

I have worked on *so* many actresses (minor starlets -- they will NEVER
become major superstars) who have had permanent makeup done. it's awful.
as a makeup artist, I hate it. for one thing, it limits the kind of
roles the actress can do -- no period pieces, etc. second, it changes
color over the years. lipliner often turns blue-black and looks
disgusting. I've also seen it create heinous bumps and divets in the
lipline. I've worked with one actress who can only wear Lip Venom, and
tons of it, to camouflage the uneven texture of her lips. and then
there's' the whole issue of the lip color not matching wardrobe for the
day, etc. don't you ever like to change your eyeliner color? you have to
think about what it will look like 10 years from now, after sun
exposure. if I *was* going to have it done, I certainly wouldn't go to a
nail tech for it -- wouldn't you want someone who specialized in it?

then Els wrote:

I agree completely. I think it's horrible, and hate working on people
who have had it done. even when it's well-done, it really limits one's
ability to change one's look.

-Diane

I just returned from a neighborhood walk with my husband. I applied the HR
prodigy earlier
this morning so I used Eucerin moisturzer with SPF 30 over it, Nars dolce
vita and my
sunglasses. I always use some type of skin protection and either a balm or
lipstick.
Audrey

Elisa - I know exactly what you are saying. The whole week Hurricane Isabel was
about to do her thing, doing her thing, and leaving her thing behind I wore no
make-up and thought nothing of it - going out to the store, mall, etc. But the
day I headed back to work, I could not let myself go out without make-up. And
it's not like they haven't seen this face without paste. But it honestly made
me shudder to think of going in without foundation, etc.....

I just think we go through these odd moments - and that makes us who we are.

Dianne in Virginia Beach

Linda wrote:
Powder and lipstick can make a lot of difference; mascara makes
the most flattering difference on me, but it's not something I
can just swipe on.

Why, I do it all the time.

TFBIM, however, has not--in the 10+ years we have been married--ever done so.
In fact, she has yet to set foot outside without a 5 minute face (which takes
her about 12 minutes...something about metric time, I think).

Trilby will attest to the fact that my beloved will traipse headlong into WDW
at the first crack with a full (albeit "daytime") face. FWIW, here in SoFla, it
is not unusual to see women in full-faces 100% of the time. In fact, there are
women I have known for decades whom I've not seen without makeup...EVER.

The whole thing strikes me as extreme, but there ya go.

-Joe in SoFla

I don't care, and you can't make me.

"Els" <eyehrev@heatmail.com> wrote in message news:<Keidb.43964$rs4.2052232@phobos.telenet-ops.be>...
I'm with Elisa. Sometimes I can stride out of the house with a
you-be-damned attitude and am impervious to the "are you ill" remarks.
And then I'll have a day where concealer, tinted lip gloss and the
sunglasses are compulsory.

Sue

--Hang up and drive--

In article <20030928184446.29915.00000219@mb-m24.aol.com>,
Jrgboj M. Gpkgbdfike Jr. <jmgarciajr@aol.comply> wrote:
This is true. And TFBHM could probably attest to the fact that I
frequently spend the entire day at WDW wearing nothing but sunscreen
and UD Lounge lipstick.

BTW, while it's apparent that TFBHM is wearing a little eye makeup, it's
not as though she spackles the stuff on. It's more like I'm shiny and
she's matte.

Priscilla


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