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JOHN wrote:

John, got an offer for you. You come to my lab, I'll inject you with
some purified HIV virus, and we'll see what happens. You can ascertain
its content in any way you desire.

Certainly, you're willing to put your money where your mouth is.

Bryan

"Bryan Heit" <bjheit@NOSPAMucalgary.ca> wrote in message
news:ei7oob$l3l$5@news.ucalgary.ca...
I'm not really into medical mafia injections

why don't you take the equivalent mercury load that babies used to get, or
just the equivalent vaccine load now, and put your monery where your mouth
is http://www.spontaneouscreation.org/SC/$75,000VaccineOffer.htm

Note: medical morons such as Brian have yet to cure one person of AIDS.

"Bryan Heit" <bjheit@NOSPAMucalgary.ca> a écrit dans le message de news:
ei7oob$l3l$5@news.ucalgary.ca...
Hey, where did you get your purified HIV virus ? Do you know that it's worth a thousand
fortunes? The whole fuckin' world has been trying since 25 years to get a sample of
purified HIV and you have some in your drawer!

Well, why do I write this message? You'll never read it, it will pile up behind the untold
millions of golden proposals peopel are sending you from all over the world since you
posted your striking news. Congratulations, billionaire!

JOHN wrote:

Or, in other words, you lack the courage of your convictions. At least
I have the balls to do what I say.

Call me unimpressed.



Um, John I *was* one of those babies. And, for that matter, I continue
to receive between 6 and 10 vaccinations a year (gotta love my job) and
I'm still fine.


Neither has anyone else. But unlike your herbal medicine friends, we
manage to keep HIV patients alive 4-8 times longer then they would
otherwise live.

Bryan

js wrote:
Umm, purified HIV is pretty easy to get, and is pretty much worthless.
10 seconds on google pulled up at least 6 different isolation protocols.
You can buy it, grow it up in cells, or isolate it from blood/tissue
samples. Hell, we've even got a freezer full of samples - about 45
genetically distinct strains - just thaw and use.

For that matter, if you belong to a properly certified research facility
you can buy it, or even get it for free, from many of the HIV virus
repositories.

Sorry that reality had to intrude into your little fantasy world.

Bryan

"Bryan Heit" <bjheit@NOSPAMucalgary.ca> wrote in message

I agree. Who would give 2 cents for hiv?
The fortunes are being spent to be rid of the virus.

Bryan Heit wrote:
If you are, in fact, in possession of actual real bonafide "purified
HIV virus" you are the first one to ever have that. I suggest you write
it up and submit it to a scientific paper.

TC

tunderbar@hotmail.com wrote:

Far from it. I would be about the 5000th person to do so. Isolation of
HIV virions, to very high degrees of purity, is a pretty old technique.
We've got these protocols so well established that not only can you
isolate the whole virus, but you can take it a step further and isolate
individual parts, like the core. Few of the more recent studies in
which virions (whole, or parts) were isolated:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...ubmed_docsu m
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...ubmed_DocSu m
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...ubmed_DocSu m
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...ubmed_DocSu m
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...=pubmed_DocSum

You'll note that the ones isolating parts of the virus (i.e. cores)
start with purified virus first.

Bryan

"Bryan Heit" <bjheit@NOSPAMucalgary.ca> wrote in message
news:ei7oob$l3l$5@news.ucalgary.ca...
Your lab? What lab, where?
Right backatya.

"Bryan Heit" <bjheit@NOSPAMucalgary.ca> wrote in message
news:ei8e78$vh5$1@news.ucalgary.ca...
All AMA. *Oranized medicne*! Poor brainwashed Bryan.

In article <ei8e78$vh5$1@news.ucalgary.ca>,
Bryan Heit <bjheit@NOSPAMucalgary.ca> wrote:
It's an article of faith among one branch of the AIDS denialists that
HIV doesn't actually exist, therefore neither you nor anyone else
could possibly be in possession of any, purified or otherwise.

There's another branch that says that HIV exists, but is harmless.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"George Bush is a gruesome boob." -- Bill Maher

David Wright wrote:

I would welcome members of either group to come by my lab, take an
injection of it, and see what happens...

Bryan

Jan Drew wrote:
Ohhh, good comeback Jan. You think of that one all by yourself? Hate
to reak it to you, but I walk the walk, so to speak. I believe in
vaccines, and I receive several of them each year. I believe HIV
exists, and is the causative agent of AIDS, hence I don't inject myself
with it. It is you and your ilk, the HIV/vaccine deniers, who aren't
willing to do what is needed to prove what you say.

After all, if HIV doesn't cause AIDS, then certantly there would be no
harm letting me inject a little blood from and HIV+ person into you.
Hell, people often receive liters of blood from other donors with no
side effects. And yet you and John, every time I've made that offer,
find some way to weasel out.

Now lets try this again - who here lacks the courage of their
convictions - cause it certantly isn't me.

Bryan

In message <eiaa1g$r4n$1@news.ucalgary.ca>, Bryan Heit wrote:
Never mind injection. Broken skin, or administered by suppository.
Just to be totally clear, put it where they can get at the suppository
with appropriate warnings. If they argue with you, tell them to stuff
it where the sun don't shine.

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"Bryan Heit" <bjheit@NOSPAMucalgary.ca> wrote in message
news:eiaa1g$r4n$1@news.ucalgary.ca...

is that how people get HIV, by medical injections?

"Prior to October of 1997, I believed that HIV was the cause of AIDS based
solely on the information that had been reported by the United States Center
for Diseases Control and Prevention (CDC) and the AIDS establishment.
However, my view was unquestionably changed when I evaluated the medical
evidence on the worldwide AIDS epidemic. My findings clearly show: 1) The
HIV-hypothesis is not supported by any medical fact and AIDS is caused by
agents and factors other than HIV. 2) The proponents of the HIV-hypothesis
have long overlooked crucial and essential medical evidence that clearly
describes the real causes of AIDS. 3) The results of clinical studies on
AZT, protease inhibitors, and nevirapine indicate that these agents can
cause severe systemic damage, AIDS, and death."----Mohammed A. Al-Bayati
http://www.whale.to/a/bayati4.html

"Bryan Heit" <bjheit@NOSPAMucalgary.ca> wrote in message
news:eiaa9u$r5t$1@news.ucalgary.ca...
After all of that you failed to answer my questions.

Put your mouth where your mouth is.

JOHN wrote:
If needles are reused, or other medical equipment not properly
sterilized, then HIV can be transfered from one patient to another via
this equipment. But that's not a major route of infection, less the 1%
in most countries.

If it makes you feel better, we could do it using a suppository, or a
balm you rub onto an open wound.

Bryan

Jan Drew wrote:
If you look at my e-mail address, or for that matter any of the
scientific papers I have published, the location of my lab is extremely
easy to ascertain. I'll give yo a clue - at www. to the beginning of my
e-mail addy's domain name, my unis webpage'll pop up.

For that matter, I'm on the road a lot these days. I'll be in the
Eastern US come the end of November, and England in January. I could
just bring the stuff with me.

Bryan

On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 18:18:46 -0000, "JOHN" <john@btinternet.com> wrote:

One way in some parts of the world where syringes may be re-used.
Intravenous drug users sharing needles may spread HIV disease (which
is why needle exchange not surprisingly is an effective method for
reducing HIV incidence).

Generally, HIV is transmitted sexually.

HIV exists. It causes AIDS.

You can ask David Pasquarelli, a strong denialist.

The only trouble is, he's dead. He died of AIDS because he bought the
denialist bullshit.

George M. Carter