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This is too scary not to pass along
Posted by Trisha B


I recently read a report about the dangers of High Fructose Corn
Syrup. I didn't believe it at first since the stuff is even in my
healthy protein bars that I eat. But the report references several
Clinical Studies done by reputable institutions. It's much more
dangerous than just making you fat like the media has said.

Well after I read the report, I went through my cupboard and
threw away lots of stuff that my kids and I normally eat.

You have to read this for yourself. I just can't believe that food
and drink manufacturers think so little of the American Public to
slip this stuff in our food. Where's the FDA?

Here's where I got the report
http://192.41.69.71/report/hfcsreport.htm

It's what you don't know that can hurt you and this proves it!


Posted by GMCarter


On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 02:33:49 -0500, "The Terrorist Group FC"
<nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

Or if you eat too much. And people may not realize how much they are
eating of the stuff. I'm not sure, but I expect this may be one
element in "sweetening" the tooth of Americans and adding to the
literal burden of weight and obesity that afflicts an increasingly
large segment of the population.

One of the sites noted reflects that in a rat study fed a
high-fructose corn syrup diet died within 5 weeks, apparently due to a
reduction in copper stores. It also apparently reduces chromium
levels.

I think that the take-home message would be to

1) Read labels;
2) Reduce intake of products containing these items;
3) Eat better foods as possible;
4) Take a multivitamin.

George M. Carter


Posted by Tim Fitzmaurice


On Fri, 12 Sep 2003, GMCarter wrote:

The nutritional imbalance in a product marketed as health food isnt really
to me a 'dangerous food' specially since I doubt that problem is limited
to fructose syrup. I do wonder how a saccharide that is metabolised by an
insulin independant pathway and has been routinely used can be described
as beng a problem for diabetics.

I'm not sure, but I expect this may be one
Very possible - but then I wouldnt say that makes fructose syrup
dangerous. If anything I think by waving fructose srup around you mask the
issue and make everything think 'ooh cut this out and the whole problem is
solved' whch for the issue you flag, George, I think is a problem...

Hmm did they cite the study and/or the doses?

3) Definitely 3.....heck I can knock up a decent stir fry from fresh or
frozen basic ingredients in 20 minutes. I buy a ready meal or a
pre-prepared (dare I suggest salt and fat overladen) convenience dish and
take it from the freezer and its 'Heat for 30-35 minutes'. OK convenience
food I use for just that - convenience - but sometimes it aint that
convenient.

There was an excellent series on UK TV, pushed as a get people cooking
show but really didnt make the point enough...Meals in Minutes it was
called...Ainsley Harriot did it (one of our TV chefs) - the idea was to
show people that you can produce well balanced excellent food quicker than
many of the TV dinners you can buy. Go look for it (I have no doubt that
they produced a book from the series and it may be in the BB website as
well) - Ive nicked so many ideas off it .....

Hmmm - a bit off topic arent we

Tim
--
When playing rugby, its not the winning that counts, but the taking apart
ICQ: 5178568


Posted by GMCarter


On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 09:39:48 +0100, Tim Fitzmaurice
<tjf11@cus.cam.ac.uk> wrote:

Oh, I agree. I don't think getting hung up on high fructose corn syrup
is good--saccharides, possibly. The other big issue, of course, and
undoubtedly as serious if not more so, is the "hydrogenated vegetable
oils" found in many foods.

(As to "natural" on a food label, just dismiss it out of hand. It
means nothing. In the US, though, "organic" on a FOOD label is
regulated by a relatively good law. By contrast, on a "personal care"
item like shampoo or toothpaste, it again lapses back into
meaninglessness.)


5,000 mg/kg injected peritoneally every five minutes. The results
shocked them! (LOL)

Seriously, no cite given but this comment:
http://www.mcvitamins.com/cornsyrup.htm
"Some recent studies show "Rats normally live for a good two years,"
explains Meira Fields, Ph.D., research chemist at the USDA in
Beltsville, Maryland. "But the rats in my study fed a high-fructose,
low copper diets are dying after 5 weeks." One of the few human
studies of low-copper, high-fructose diets was abruptly stopped when 4
of the 24 subjects developed heart-related abnormalities, according to
Fields. High fructose diets have also been implicated in the
development of adult-onset diabetes. Fructose, especially when
combined with other sugars, reduces stores of chromium, a mineral
essential for maintaining balanced insulin levels, according to
Richard Anderson, Ph.D., lead scientist at the Human Nutrition
Research Center in Beltsville, Maryland."

Of course, I realize this site is trying to sell that bullshit coral
calcium crap. See the end for a couple of citations from Dr. Fields.
I don't think I found the specific study that they referenced above,
but a couple of interesting ones all the same.

There are more and more "convenience" foods made of increasingly
better ingredients and/or lacking the extra salt....there ya go, Tim!
Another source of trouble. If it says "fat free" it probably means
"salt" or "sugar loaded."

Oh, honey--do 4 too!!! It won't hurt and even a recent JAMA article
suggested all adult Americans could benefit! And I *KNOW* it is good
for people with chronic diseases like HIV and Hep C. (Topic!) Cites
abound! And it does NOT have to be expensive.

Sounds great! If you find a website, let me know. Us Untied States
folks seem to have been deprived of that, but our Public Broadcasting
has numerous cooking shows on the weekend. I like to cook.

Oh what the hell. Bon appetit!!

Hey--speaking of whom--my god! That woman has LIVED on pure fat for
6,000 years and she's STILL going strong, godlets bless her!!

George M. Carter

***
Here the rats were killed at 4 weeks, so that might explain part of
their findings!
J Am Coll Nutr. 1999 Feb;18(1):83-7. Related Articles, Links


Dietary fructose but not starch is responsible for hyperlipidemia
associated with copper deficiency in rats: effect of high-fat diet.

Fields M, Lewis CG.

Nutrient Requirements and Functions Laboratory, Beltsville Human
Nutrition Research Center, ARS, United States Department of
Agriculture, Maryland 20705-2350, USA.

OBJECTIVE: To test the hypothesis that copper deficiency in rats may
be hyperlipidemic only when the diets consumed contain nutrients which
contribute to blood lipids such as fructose and high fat. METHODS:
Weanling male Sprague Dawley rats were fed diets which contained
either starch or fructose as their sole carbohydrate source. The diets
were either inadequate (0.6 microg Cu/g) or adequate (6.0 microg Cu/g)
in copper and contained either high (300 g/kg) or low (60 g/kg) fat.
At the end of the 4th week the rats were killed. Livers were analyzed
for copper content. Plasma was analyzed for cholesterol and
triglyceride concentrations. RESULTS: High-fat diet did not increase
blood lipids in rats fed a copper-deficient diet containing starch. In
contrast, the combination of high-fat diet with fructose increased
blood triglycerides and fructose with copper deficiency resulted in a
significant increases in blood cholesterol. CONCLUSIONS:
Hyperlipidemia of copper deficiency in rats is dependent on
synergistic effects between dietary fructose and copper deficiency and
fructose and amount of dietary fat. Hyperlipidemia does not develop if
starch is the main source of dietary carbohydrate in a
copper-deficient diet even if a high-fat diet is fed.


***
Still not the study referenced, below, I don't think but interesting.
Actually, there's a lot of intriguing stuff from this group.

Biol Trace Elem Res. 1992 Dec;35(3):239-46. Related Articles, Links


The effect of time of introduction of a high-fructose, low-copper diet
on copper deficiency in male rats.

Lewis CG, Fields M, Beal T.

USDA, ARS, BHNRC, Beltsville, MD 20705.

The purpose of the present study was to compare the time of
introduction of the high-fructose low-copper diet on the expression of
copper (Cu) deficiency. Weanling male rats were randomly assigned to
either a diet containing 62.7% fructose or starch, and 6.0 (F+Cu) or
0.6 (S-Cu) microgram Cu/g diet, respectively, for either 1, 2, or 3 wk
before being transferred to a diet containing fructose and inadequate
in copper (F-Cu). At week 10, body weight and relative heart size of
rats initially consuming the F + Cu diet was inversely related to the
week placed on the F-Cu diet, but not for those initially consuming
S-Cu. Hematocrit, hepatic Cu concentration and RBC superoxide
dismutase activity were significantly lower in rats initially
consuming S-Cu when compared to those fed F + Cu. Mortality was
greatest in rats switched to the F-Cu diet at weeks 1 and 2 when
compared to those switched at week 3 regardless of the type of diet
initially consumed. Plasma cholesterol, triacylglycerols, and blood
urea nitrogen concentrations were not significantly altered by the
type of diet initially consumed or by the time of introduction of the
F-Cu diet. It was concluded that changing rats to a F-Cu diet at 1, 2,
or 3 wk after weaning did not significantly improve some of the
characteristic signs associated with Cu deficiency, but the later that
the F-Cu diet was introduced after weaning the greater the chances for
survival.



Posted by Vegan Stephen


gmc0@ix.netcom.com (GMCarter) wrote in message news:<3f62fc04.2545279@news.verizon.net>...
Another reason why, and forgive me if I missed someone say this, corn
is dangerous in general, is that corn is a GM food!

Corn and soy are two of the most common GMO foods in the USA. I have
never seen certified organic corn syrup.

Posted by mickomac


You may be interested in this article "What if it's all been a big fat lie?"
from the New York Times Magazine dated July 7th which questions the low
fat - high carb orthodoxy.

http://atkins.com/Archive/2003/1/20-542932.html



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