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a non-believer in HIV as the cause of AIDS got closer to dying his beliefs started changing but not quickly enough to save him.
Posted by Linda R


"DavidT" wrote:
what I can find and make upmy mind.
girl.

I respect that you have your opinions, which you think are fact, but I
still contend that this whole paradigm is based on a false premise from
the beginning. Nothing I've seen so far has changed my mind.


Linda

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Posted by Linda R


"GMCarter" wrote:

I'll have to dig out my original papers if I can find them and see what
they say. They unblinded Sustiva part way through because no one was
doing well on it and nothing else.
maybe at autopsy. And the organism is in everyone, anyway--just a
matter of whether it has taken over or not.
Thank you.

Yeah, my daughter would be really pissed if I died--she'd have to get a
new nanny. A death wish is not part of my makeup. I'm really a whole
lot tougher than I seem. And I'm not stupid.


Linda

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Posted by Linda R


And to everyone who's trying so hard to educate me--I appreciate it(some
more than others). And I will check out some of the papers. But mostly
I'll be concentrating on staying well. I'm not sure that arguing here
is in my best interests right now, so I'm taking a breather and
focussing my energies where they'll be most fruitful. And if anything
important happens, I'll let you know. (Not you, Death, I have no
interest in your opinions.)

So you can find somebody else to kick around for now. I wish you all
well. On with the truthseeking!

Linda

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Posted by your ass is collapsing


DavidT wrote...
It was vigorously disputed, but a year or two ago a study suggested that
many cases of HIV in Africa were contracted from contaminated needles
and not sexually-transmitted. Africans have a fascination with shots,
I'm thinking in their minds a shot represents a cure for just about
everything, so African doctors and nurses are quick to satisfy their
patients by giving them a shot - even it is only saline solution - and
sending them on their way. The problem is that a $0.05 disposable
needle represents a month's income even for the doctor, so it is not
hard to imagine the needles get re-used over and over.

This also would explain the mysterious heterosexual epidemic in Africa,
the comparable one predicted in the West never materialized, maybe
because we have such stringent medical regulations on needles.

Posted by your ass is collapsing


DavidT wrote...
But you know what, if I were a health care worker pricked with a needle
and my concerns were just laughed at and I was told I wasn't entitled
to PEP because it wasn't "cost-effective," I think I would return with
a gun and demand that they give me the pills. At the very least I
would take the needle that pricked me and prick the administrator who
denied me the pills, let him console himself with the low risk just
like me.

Posted by Gary Stein



"Linda R" <moonchild492000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:AS6af.37$Lx2.8210@news.uswest.net...
Nothing has been found that helps? What planet are you living on, the
average life span of an untreated AIDS patient is calculated in months, the
average life span of a AIDS patient on ARV is calculated in years in many
cases decades.

Yes different countries have different standards for HIV testing just as
they have different standards for many other laboratory tests does that mean
that all such tests are invalid? You are wrong about the there being
different standard between US labs. The FDA sets the standards and the
quality control requirements for all diagnostic medical tests in the US and
they apply uniformly to all labs.

I would need a source on that claim becuause I have as of yet not seen one
that backs up that statement. Even though denialists have been making the
claim for years.

Gary Stein



Posted by Gary Stein



"Linda R" <moonchild492000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:s87af.41$Lx2.8517@news.uswest.net...
PCP is diagnosed in three ways depending on it's size and location in the
lungs.
The most common diagnostic tool is a bronchoscope, which is a device for
inserting a camera into the lung and viewing the images on a monitor most
PCP can be diagnosed using this method.

If it is not possible to definitively diagnosis PCP via bronchoscope then
the next step is a needle biopsy. Which consist of inserting a large bore
hypodermic needle into the PCP mass in the lung. This is accomplished via
the use of CAT scan to position the needle in the correct spot in order to
retrieve a sample of the diseased tissue which is then cultured at a lab.

Finally if that does not work a surgical biopsy is performed where the
surgeon surgically opens up the patients lung and visually obtains a tissue
sample of the diseased tissue which is then sent to a lab for
identification.

Gary Stein



Posted by Brian Mailman


Gary Stein wrote:

(snip)

You forgot two others, before they go onto those three. X-ray and
sputum culture. PCP has a distinctive "shadow" on an x-ray; however,
it's unfortunate that that shadow doesn't always show up (and a sputum
culture gives a false negative) and then the invasive techniques need to
be used.

B/

Posted by Death



"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

Now that we have aids, lets spend
the rest of our sad little lives arguing over the cd4 count
or weather our meds are going to kill us before we melt.

Heck we can go to the gym together to get stronger so
we melt slower, golly that sounds like fun.

We could go on a faggot cruise ship and spend our money
all up because we have no one to leave it to that gives
a shit about us.

On second thought, pass on the faggot sex, LOL



Posted by Death



"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
Oh wait, you explained that didn't you,
lower than high.

Really brilliant, no shit.



Posted by Death



"Brian Mailman" <bmailman@sfo.invalid> wrote in message
PCP must be Punxsutawney Phil



Posted by GMCarter


On Wed, 02 Nov 2005 17:59:52 GMT, Linda R <moonchild492000@yahoo.com>
wrote:
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I am counting on your intelligence! And desire to live and stay well.
There's LOTS you can do in that regard. For sure, a multivitamin. Whey
protein is delicious and inexpensive. Good diet. Etc.

The arguments of denialists can seem persuasive. I cannot encourage
you enough to truly, deeply look at both sides of the issue.

George M. Carter


Posted by GMCarter


On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 17:57:45 -0600, "Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> wrote:

Hey, dumbass bigot--what the fuck do you care? You just waiting to
dance on your brother's grave, aren't you?

For someone that hates fags, you sure do seem to be "concerned!"




Posted by GMCarter


On Wed, 02 Nov 2005 17:31:49 GMT, Linda R <moonchild492000@yahoo.com>
wrote:
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Duesberg and the Perth people still have their jobs. So does Mullis. I
haven't seen ANYONE lose a job over their views.

And don't confuse outrageous, murderous profiteering by Pharma and
research. Most salaries range from dismal to a decent living but not
outrageous.

George M. Carter


Posted by GMCarter


On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 17:48:59 -0600, "Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> wrote:

Not if you get fucked by someone wearing a condom. And certainly no
trouble if they are not HIV+!

See how silly you are, you goose?


Posted by Death



"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

See how silly you are, you goose?




Posted by Death



"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

About you, LOL, not one damn.
You are just entertainment to me.
Like a monkey, or a circus clown
or a faggot dressed like Dorothy.


I have a brother? Damn, I hope he ain't a faggot.

about faggots or their diseases, my circus clown.






Posted by GMCarter


On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 00:27:46 -0600, "Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> wrote:

snip
As homophobia is to wannabe cocksuckers, clown worship is to being
like John Wayne Gacy....

do-do-doo-doo-doo-do-do-do-doo-do....


Posted by GMCarter


On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 00:13:04 -0600, "Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> wrote:

snip
Aw, you wanna hear what it's like?

When I have sex with a guy, I presume he is HIV+, whether he knows it
or admits it or not.

I presume I could be and he is not.

And in the world at large, HIV doesn't care if you are having anal sex
or vaginal sex or sharing syringes.

That's the point you are too clownish to understand, bigot.



Posted by Linda R


"GMCarter" wrote:
because of a possible dairy allergy. I'll probably be going back. I
know all about the glutathione stuff, take probably more supplements
than I should and am working hard on the diet. My daughter loves buying
me organic stuff!

When I get all this sorted out and decide on my next course of action,
I'll have more time to research. And I'll let you know when I find my
cure!


Linda

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