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Bird Flu Pandemic, a History Lesson That Should Be Learned
Posted by AbelMalcolm@hotmail.com


Time magazine's Sept. 19th issue has a very good article on the bird
flu pandemic of 1918, titled "Lessons From History". As per the
article, 30% of the world's population was infected by this virus and a
hundred million people died from it, one million of them Americans.
The bird flu pandemic has killed, by far, more people than any other
epidemic in history - more people have died from the bird flu than have
died from the Black Death Bubonic Plague or from AIDS or any other
epidemic in human history. The Time magazine article, by Bryan Walsh,
says that in just 24 weeks the bird flu back then managed to kill even
more people than AIDS has in the last 24 years. See link:
http://www.time.com/time/asia/covers...lu_lesson.html

What's worse, with the continued monopolization of our vaccine industry
(and other industries over the years), we don't even have the ability
to make vaccines any more, so if the bird flu pandemic strikes again,
we are SCREWED. Three decades ago, there were 25 companies that made
vaccines, but today, there are only 2 companies that make injectable
vaccines any more, Chiron and Aventeur Pasteur. It was last year,
exactly one year ago today, if you remember, that we lost half of our
nation's vaccine supply, this happened because the British run Chiron
factory located in England was accidentally contaminated.

I posted here, exactly one year ago, about this very problem, see link,
it's worth a re-read, because since then, nothing has changed:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.p...77ab06f?hl=en&


The most important lesson of history is that influenza viruses should
be taken very seriously, and there should be immediate action taken by
governments. The World Health Organization has been asking governments
for money and other resources, so it can fight this developing scourge,
but nobody is listening. President Bush has not said anything about
this disease, and he may not even be aware that it exists. But it's
not just him, China, and every other country involved, they have all
been less than forthcoming, and they have proven themselves to be
completely unreliable on the issue. Thailand, China, and the rest of
them, they went as far as to lie about even the existence of this
disease when it first struck their countries some 7 or 8 years ago.
Indonesia, at first went out of their way to hide the existence of the
disease, then when they couldn't hide it any more, they left it up to
the farmers to voluntarily cull their flocks, then later on they were
forced to order the mass culling/burning of chickens. At least Vietnam
has paid 10 cents to the dollar for culled birds.

There must be some leadership from governments, to encourage farmers to
do the right thing, and farmers should be paid fair value for the
slaughter their chickens.

There MUST be leadership from somewhere, anywhere, to put diplomatic
pressure at the highest level to make sure that HEALTH AUTHORITIES
DISEMMINATE ACCURATE INFORMATION & QUICKLY.

It is vitally important that the Bush administration address this
issue. The World Health Organization, the United Nations, and other
world bodies MUST get the resources they seek, the anti-viral drugs
that can mitigate this flu must be stockpiled, and vaccines must be
developed starting immediately. And finally, there MUST be a concerted
public information campaign to convince people of this coming threat,
this way cooperation among countries will be maximized.

In conclusion, our vaccine making abilities need to be upgraded. In
France, Britain, Canada, and other countries, it has been a deliberate
government policy to subsidize and encourage the creation and the
upgrading of vaccine making technology. We should do the same.

The Effect of World War 1 on the Spread of Bird Flu at Home

Half of the American soldiers who died in World War 1 died from the
bird flu rather than from the enemy. The bird flu pandemic circled the
globe, most of humanity felt the effects of this strain of the
influenza virus. It spead following the path of its human carriers,
along trade routes and shipping lanes. Outbreaks swept thru North
America, Europe, Asia, Africa, Brazil, the South Pacific and India.

The Great War (WW1), with its mass movements of men in armies and
aboard ships, aided in the rapid diffusion of this virus. Back then,
the origins of this deadly flu disease were unknown, but it was
speculated upon. At first it was thought that the epidemic was a
biological warfare tool of the Germans. Many thought it was a result
of the trench warfare, the use of mustard gases and the generated
"smoke and fumes" of the war.

A first wave of the influenza appeared early in 1918 in military camps
thru out the US. In the beginning, there was virtually no response or
acknowledgment of the epidemic in our military camps. It was
unfortunate that no steps were taken to prepare for the ussual
recurrence of this virulent influenza strain in the next winter season.
This lack of action is credited for the epidemic skyrocketing out of
control in our country by the next winter season.

World War 1 brought the virus into the US, it first arrived in Boston
in September of 1918, thru the ports that were busy with war shipments
or machinery and supplies. The war enabled the virus to spread and
diffuse. Men across the nation were mobilizing to join the military
and the cause. As they came together, they brought the virus with them
and to those they contacted. The virus killed almost 200,000 Americans
before the end of 1918. Entire fleets were ill with the disease and
our military men on the front were too sick to fight. However, the flu
was devastating to both sides, killing more men than their weapons
could.

With military patients coming home from the war with battle wounds and
mustard gas burns, hospital facilities and staff were taxed to the
limit. This created a shortage of physicians, especially in the
civilian sector as many had been lost for service with the military.
The shortage was further confounded by the added loss of physicians to
the epidemic. Even President Woodrow Wilson suffered from the flu in
early 1919 while negotiating the crucial treaty of Versailles to end
the World War.

Abel Malcolm

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Educate yourself & go to these links:

www.moveon.org & www.buzzflash.com &
http://ww11.e-tractions.com/truemajority/run/oreo &
www.democracynow.org
& http://www.airamericaradio.com/ & http://www.therandirhodesshow.com

Posted by itsoooook@yahoo.com



but the birdis

do they die

Posted by Captain Compassion


On 3 Oct 2005 01:04:31 -0700, AbelMalcolm@hotmail.com wrote:



--
"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce

"America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy." -- John Updike

"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion

"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant

Joseph R. Darancette
res0mp8t@NOSPAMverizon.net

Posted by No Hassles (Thanks, Coolgoose!)


The pattern of response chosen for bird flu allows that a privileged
elite will have access to anti-flu drugs (tamoxifen), while the vast
mass of rabble is cleverly prevented from stockpiling or creating any
extraordinary market for the drug, legal or illegal, by doctors and
regulators who so thoughtfully and conscientiously block them from
access to prescription drugs. In this way it can be predicted that the
bulk of the population can be counted on to provide a fertile breeding
ground for drug-susceptible strains, while drug-resistant strains
arising among those lucky few with access to tamoxifen will die out in
the larger population. This way, the elite can be ensured a prolonged
period during which they will be confident of surviving the disease,
until those in charge deem the time fit to release a vaccine.

In this regard, the bird flu should be expected to serve very much the
same purpose as the first World War, but with much less damage to
valuable property.

Posted by Captain Compassion


On 3 Oct 2005 15:22:15 -0700, "No Hassles (Thanks, Coolgoose!)"
<nohassles@coolgoose.com> wrote:

OK. Big sale on tinfoil at Big Lots!


--
"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce

"America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy." -- John Updike

"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion

"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant

Joseph R. Darancette
res0mp8t@NOSPAMverizon.net

Posted by djk


In article <1128326671.041776.22440@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups. com>,
AbelMalcolm@hotmail.com says...
in the event of a massive problem. Truth is , they don't. further
supposition on my part is any massive outbreak will be manufactured
to decrese population. count yourself lucky if you happen upon a
vaccine or are not directly affected. good luck to everybody.

Posted by papia


hi pranny,

my maternal uncle just recovered from influenza type A virus which is
also a type of flu but commonly found in adults. He was given
amantadine.. one should be careful of overdosage of this drug. It may
result in increased heart rate; high blood pressure (blurred vision,
severe headache); anxiety; difficulty breathing; insomnia;
aggression; tremor; confusion; hallucinations; paranoia; coma;
seizures; and even death..
So
amantadine
induces coma if you overdose.
always check with your doctor immediately if this evr happens.

Posted by Victoria Hirt


March 1918 - At Fort Riley, Kansas, an Army private reports to the
camp hospital just before breakfast on March 11 complaining of fever,
sore throat, and headache. He was quickly followed by another soldier
with similar complaints. By noon, the camp's hospital had dealt with
over 100 ill soldiers. By week's end that number jumped to 500.

Most experts believe that the flu started in Kansas and then spread
around the world.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/influen...ine/index.html

Here's the problem with your idea - in one word - mutation. Currently
NO vaccine is available against a pandemic flu. WHY? Because such a
flu will be a mutation of both human flu and bird flu. A vaccine
won't be available until about six months after the pandemic starts
because it takes that long to make it.

Even once it starts the virus could mutate again infecting everyone
including the government.

BTW - You do realize that decreasing population means less taxes which
equals less money for politicians and government officials to play
with, don't you?

Posted by liberalhere@yahoo.com



Victoria Hirt wrote:
So...we ought to kill you now to get the ball rolling? Just asking.

Anyway, you apparently are talking through your butt regarding the
viral mutation. You're implying a totally unrecognizable virus will
arise from the existing H5N1 variant after it either mutates or
exchanges DNA with an existing human virus? Ain't necessarily so!

Although my knowledge is incomplete, surface proteins are how [at least
one way how] the immume system recognizes a virus. A vaccine exposes
the immune system to surface proteins to "train" it to recognize the
virus. (The Salk vaccine used the entire polio virus, "killed" first of
course. The Sabin vaccine used "incapacitated" live viruses.) Therefore
a vaccine developed today from the H5N1 virus could have some value.
Depends on how the surface proteins are changed. Cow pox and smallpox
are so closely related that cow pox confers immunity from smallpox.
It's my understanding that the cow pox virus was the original form,
with the smallpox being the "recent" mutation.


Posted by Victoria Hirt


On 8 Nov 2005 19:13:19 -0800, liberalhere@yahoo.com wrote:

"A pandemic is a global disease outbreak. An influenza pandemic occurs
when a new influenza A virus emerges for which there is little or no
immunity in the human population..." -
http://www.pandemicflu.gov/health/whatyoucando.html

"Pandemic viruses emerge as a result of a process called "antigenic
shift,” which causes an abrupt or sudden, major change in influenza A
viruses. These changes are caused by new combinations of the HA and/or
NA proteins on the surface of the virus. Changes results in a new
influenza A virus subtype. The appearance of a new influenza A virus
subtype is the first step toward a pandemic; however, to cause a
pandemic, the new virus subtype also must have the capacity to spread
easily from person to person." -
http://www.cdc.gov/flu/avian/gen-info/pandemics.htm


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