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OT: Kerastase' Products, Overrated?
Posted by RICHARDSPUMPKIN



I went to a very NICE spa this weekend to treat myself, and while talking to
one of the women there, she mentioned this product, and bought four
items...almost $200!! When I came home, I rushed online to find this product.
It seems like something I could try, but before I do, I'm sure one of you can
give me a review.....let me know, what the best products are for dry, curly,
thick hair, and if it's worth the money.

Thanks,
Sher~

Posted by KM


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"RICHARDSPUMPKIN" <richardspumpkin@aol.com> wrote in message
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It will tell on each product item, but they are very good.
Review at this site to see which one is right for you:
http://www.kerastase.com/_en/_gb/Con...cts/gamme.aspx



Posted by Candide


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Found nothing special in any of the Kerastase products, most of which
are heavy on oils and silicone (another oil). Read somewhere that
Fruticus *sp?* is L'Oreal's "lower priced" Kerastase line.

FWIW there are several knock offs of Kerastase, some of which can be
found in beauty supply stores such as Ricky's.

Think these products are something like "Crème de Mer", they cost so
dear people swear they must be doing something.

Do yourself a favour, pick up a copy of Paula Begouin's "Don't Go
Shopping For Haircare Products Without Me," book. Once you know what
is in hair care products you will be amazed just how similar they all
are.

For instance all conditioners that claim to moisturise hair contain some
type of oil and water emulsion. Water hydrates the hair and the oil
helps trap it in and slicks down the surface. This oil can be corn,
silicone, olive, avocado, turtle, eye of newt or what have you but they
still are oils.

If you have really curly and thick hair that tends to be dry, check out
some of the products targeted towards African American women, many are
very gentle and ultra moisturising.

Just my two pence, YMMV

P.S.

Check local discount drug stores that sell high end hair care, often you
can find Kerastase there. Several such stores in my area all carry
Kerastase at reasonable prices compared to salons.

Candide



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cheaper."
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Posted by KM


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"Candide" <PityMePines@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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Hahaha, love your sig line.
FWIW, I am a very harsh critic of hair care products and I did find the
Kerastase, in the line I tried, to be very good. I like Frederic Fekkai,
don't like Bumble and Bumble, but my hair has a whole 'nother thing going on
than dryness. I look for volume in the products I buy, not for dryness.
Most people really like Kerastase, and I am including those who look for
things other than volume. Kerastase is made by L'Oreal so maybe you are
right about the Fructus shampoo. I thought it was Garnier Fructus, but
maybe they are a L'Oreal company. I really don't know. I read that
ColorVive is the cheaper L'oreal version of Kerastase. Someone else
compared it to L'Oreal Iridiance. Another person compared it to Nature's
Therapy.
If you do decide on ordering the Kerastase online, www.drugstore.com seems
to have competitive pricing. www.lookfantastic.com also has it and their
prices are good, but they list European prices. Look fantastic also has
price breaks when you order their packages of two, three and four products.
You can also find it at www.planetbeauty.com .
The search engine http://www.kelkoo.co.uk/ is supposed to scour the Internet
for the best prices on a product so you can input the word Kerastase in
their search engine. The best prices come up as http://www.hqhair.com/ .
You can also try www.beautypreference.com .
Others have said that a product called African Shea Butter is better for
conditioning than Kerastase and another said Revlon's all soft or something
like that is better.



Posted by KM


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"KM" <kthynnyl@com.com> wrote in message
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Oops, sorry, that would be Redken's All Soft that someone liked better than
Kerastase.



Posted by JP


I love the Masquintense for thick hair. Before I chopped off my hair and I
had a lot of bleached hair on the ends this was the only conditioner that
made my hair look healthy. Now that I have shorter hair I don't need it as
often. The shampoo was ok but a little to conditioning for what I need now.
The regular conditioner was really nice as well.
If I were you just try the Masqueintense for thick hair and see how you like
it. It is the only thing that I have actually repurchased. I use Colorvive
by L'Oreal. These are my basic staple shampoo and conditioner now that I am
not highlighting my hair. When I do highlight again I will go back to Artec
Kiwi Shampoo.


JP
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Posted by Michele317


i have normal, straight, thick hair which gets a bit dry after highlights or a
summer of beach, and i like the masquintense. however, i've also had good
results from much less pricey products, also from l'oreal, such as garnier
fructus and vive masks. i'd give them a go first; i don't think the kerastase
products are that special for the money.

Posted by Stevie




Haven't done the Kerastase stuff but I have found that Davines works pretty
well, Phillip B products are really great and also I liked the Kiehls deep
conditioning treatment. I put it on while in shower with shower cap over it
and then stand under hot water spray to help it penetrate. Makes a huge
difference
good luck
Stevie


Posted by MmeRemy


Kerastase products are good, but aren't really a Holy Grail. At least not for
the time and expense involved acquiring the products.

I have hair similar to yours, curly and dry. I've been happy with Bumble and
Bumble, Terax, Fresh John Masters Organics (their dry hair
conditioner--lavender and avocado is the best there is!) and Fekkai products
myself.

Mme_Remy

Posted by Robyn


i think i read somewhere that l'oreal nature's therapy line (available
at sally's) is the lower-priced version of kerastase. i looked at
the NT line, but i didn't know the kerastase line well enough to
make direct product comparisons. i have the taming creme, which is
nice enough, but i prefer frizz-ease wind-down. i believe there is a mask,
shampoo, conditioner, etc., maybe 8 or 10 products total.

robyn (who is enjoying her new pureology in-charge hairspray today.
it's a great hair day! tomorrow i'll try the pureology shampoo + cond.)
--

robyn
robynew <at> yahoo <dot> com

Posted by Jeanne in AZ



"RICHARDSPUMPKIN" <richardspumpkin@aol.com> wrote in message
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Kerastase products are worth every penny in my book.
I've tried a lot of pricey and not so pricey lines and nothing makes my hair
behave and look as good as the Kerastase line.
They have so many products, and then variations within each line that it
would be difficult to say which products would work best. I didn't like the
line until I consulted my hair stylist who informed me I had selected
products that were too moisturizing for my hair. Now I love it.

I also use and alternate with Phyto shampoos/conditioners.
My hair is fine, thick, wavy and color treated.
Jeanne



Posted by Leigh-Cherie



"Candide" <PityMePines@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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L'Oreal's Smooth-Intense line is identical to Kerastase Oleo-Relax, right
down to the packaging, at a fraction of the cost. I've found that both tend
to build up very quickly, though, particularly when I've used the serum as
recommended.



Posted by o3


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Although I thought it was groovy and cool to have Kerastase at first, I quickly
tired of it and found that it really was way overrated to answer your question.
OTOH I highly recommend a very hyped and trendy line "CREDE" which is all the
rage amongst the beauty supply stores. It's gentle, and makes your hair
incredibly moisturized and bodified and like a child's hair. Also good is
Frederic Fekkai Protein Rx mask. And lastly: Also great and does what it says
it will do is both Bumble & bumble and Kiehl's and John Masters.

Kerastase products are far inferior to any of these in my humble and
processed-hair opinion.

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and best kept to the ends only. I love the smell and love how smooth my
hair feels while I'm rinsing it out.

I have slightly wavy, thick hair with dry ends, that gets greasy at the
scalp after three days of not washing it (thus I wash it on the third
morning). My hair gets all fluffy in humid weather, and the Masquintense
alleviates that to some degree.

I got my last one when I was in Sydney, Australia, for $22 AUS.