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Hair dye and bleach
Posted by Moggle


I'm hoping someone can help me out with some info, which I don't seem
to directly be able to find if I just do a search.

I bleached and dyed my hair blonde using packet stuff from the chemist
recently, and now its nearly time to do the regrowth and I would like
to be able to use the professional stuff.

I want to bleach the roots again, and perhaps some of the mid-lengths,
which are still a bit uneven, and then add blonde colour back in, I
did this before with a permanent, and I'm happy to do that again. I
have long hair by the way.

I think I'll have to get a developer and a bleach powder and also a
tube (or more) of the hair colour. But I'm not sure what strengths of
developer I need, and if I can use the same strength developer for the
bleach and for the permanent colour.

Also, what kind of proportions do I mix the bleach and the developer
in, and same for the dye and the developer. Also some suggested times.

Many thanks in advance

Moggle

Posted by Richard Hunter


On 24 Jul 2003 18:51:54 -0700, while driving the porcelain bus,
aussiebird13@hotmail.com (Moggle) wailed loudly and vomited the
words:

<Snip>
for the bleach, you could probably get away with using a 30
volume developer. (then again, i don't know how dark your hair
is.) for the colour, after you've bleached your hair, a 20
volume developer should do the trick. you could possibly even
use a 10 vol. because the bleaching already removed the colour
from your hair, there's really no need to use anything higher
than 20 (no colour to lift).

there should be directions on the packaging.

that's all the help i can offer. sorry i couldn't do more. but
i'm sure Robert Matthews will be along shortly to point you to
his site.

david
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Posted by Robert Craig


it is actually Robert Craig not Robert Matthews and I will turn you towards
the largest 'going blonde' web site out there....these are people that
blonde their hair at home......most do a great job...
http://www.network54.com/Forum/127834
this is the message board they have
ask away...they even have a chemist on board that is very accurate in his
answers.......

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Posted by Richard Hunter


On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 12:29:26 -0400, while driving the porcelain
bus, "Robert Craig" <laliz50@comcast.net> wailed loudly and
vomited the words:


um, sorry about that. where did i get 'Matthews'? weird.

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Posted by Moggle


Thanks everyone for your help and advice.

I know I'm a bit crazy for trying to try this at home, but I'm already
at least three quarters of the way there, having already madly
bleached most of my hair. My hair is pretty strong, and a month after
the original bleaching, is in not too bad a state.

I know the advice to go to the professionals is probably sound, but
where I live, Oxford, is one of the most expensive places to get
anything done with your hair, bar London I expect. I used to have some
foils done and it cost £75 (a bit under 10% of my monthly income), and
even a cut is £30. I also want to avoid the telling off that I'd be
sure to get after getting this far on my own.

Thanks again for those who gave me some tips, I'm off to Sally now to
see if I can get it to all make sense. Also to see what I can figure
out about toners, which it sounds like I might need.

By the way, my hair's natural colour is dark brown, and any more tips
would be appreciated.

Moggle

Posted by Richard Hunter


On 28 Jul 2003 04:51:11 -0700, while driving the porcelain bus,
aussiebird13@hotmail.com (Moggle) wailed loudly and vomited the
words:

what's the conversion rate from USD? is it still 1.6? if so,
$47 for foils is an excellent price! where i work, i would even
be able to *start* a highlight for $47.

a woman at work yesterday quoted a woman (with long hair just
past her shoulders) that she'd do a highlight, tone, and retouch
on the newgrowth (with toner on the ends) for $80. she did a
full highlight, alternating colour and bleach. after it
processed, she dried the hair, and did colour retouch on the new
growth, and on the ends added toner (Shades EQ). she got in
trouble for doing it at so cheap a price. for someone with
medium-length hair, that's a *MINIMUM* of $160 ($60 for color
foils, $60 for bleach foils, $40 for colour retouch...not to
mention the toner on the ends).

i understand your money is tight, but if you're getting foils for
75 pounds, take it.

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Posted by Moggle


full head of colour, or anything from this point on would be more
expensive and an extremely embarrasing excercise having done so much
on my own.

Basically I flat-out refuse to pay a small fortune when I think with
the right advice i have a good chance of coming out with something
decent on my own.

I have done some more research on the net on toners and using purple
to counteract the brassiness that I think I have, so I'm off to
Sally's today (was closed for lunch yesterday when I went).

Thanks again everyone for your help and advice.

Moggle

Posted by Pennyaline


"Moggle" wrote:
Pink/violet for a too yellow cast,
Violet/red for a too green cast,
Blue/green for a too orange cast (that's the brassiness you think you have).



Posted by Moggle


OK have returned from Sally's with 20 Vol/9% developer, blonding
powder and Wella Koleston Perfect blonde colour 10/1 which the girl
told me was a blue base, it's called an ash blonde on the packet.

I'm going to do a strand test tonight or tomorrow night to check how
it works, and make sure I don't fry my hair off before I go plonking
the whole lot on my head.

I was told to mix the 9% developer with equal ammounts of water to
make it 3% for the colour, to make it less harsh.

Hope it works, wish me luck, will keep you posted.

M