Just to update everyone, I went to the diabetic clinic some days ago. My
A1C has come down to 8.2 (from 9.4 approx 6 weeks before), so I guess I'm
improving. Don't know if it's fast enough though. I've lost a slight
amount of weight, I weigh 175 now instead of ~180. When I last saw a doctor
(3 weeks ago), he increased my Lantus from 40 to 42 units nightly, and this
doctor said that's not enough time to see if it's really doing any good. I
told him that my blood sugar seemed to be dropping out on me around 2 hours
after lunch, and he said to lower the lunchtime dosage (Novolog) by a unit
or two, that I was an intelligent young person who knows my body better than
anybody and that I should use my own judgement with my Novolog.

He told me not to worry too terribly bad about my daytime numbers because
they're going to fluctuate, things are going to happen, I'm going to eat.
He mentioned, "You live in Louisiana, that's a big stroke against you right
there," and laughed (we don't exactly eat healthy here). Instead, he gave
me two numbers to watch out for, 120 in the mornings and 140 at bedtime. If
I can keep between those numbers I should be okay.

The best thing to come of it is that I'm now on a program that's helping me
out BIG TIME with my prescriptions. It may be a little socially degrading,
but being able to get my insulin for $3 per bottle is worth anything. It's
the first time I've ever said this, "Here's to the state."

I'm glad you were able to find help for the scripts. I gave up feeling
degraded by it a long time ago. I gotta keep myself alive.
c


"Kenneth Pardue" <kennethNOSPAM@pardue.com> wrote in message
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"Colleen" wrote ...

I'm glad you were able to find help for the scripts. I gave up feeling
degraded by it a long time ago. I gotta keep myself alive.
__________________________________________________ ______________

Exactly.

Arnie -

On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 12:44:10 -0500, "Kenneth Pardue"
<kennethNOSPAM@pardue.com> wrote:

first got here, and I am glad for you that things are improving. Stay
the course. I can pick up a feel from your post that you are much
calmer. That, in and of itself, will be a great help to you long term.

Sleepy

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COWBOY UP!
Magic Number=7
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There is nothing socially disgraceful to need a helpiing hand, People
cannot eat pride

I am glad you have a doctor that seems to be working with you, Your
numbers are going down and that is great, It is not the great race,
Everything will be fine.

Loretta

--
In tribute to the United States of America and the State
of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and
terrorism.

"Sleepyman" <eat@moms.com> wrote in message
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Thanks. In fact I do feel a bit calmer about it. I was nearing the point
of feeling desperation and perhaps some despair in it all when I came to
this group. I'm still not right yet; my body is still not behaving or
feeling quite 'healthy' yet, but it's getting there slowly. I'm still
working on the willpower to not fall out of line. Tonight I went to the
fair and had myself part of a funnel cake... not good. I don't even want to
think about what my blood sugar is now. I'm scolding myself plenty for it
though, hopefully I'll be able to maintain myself better next time.

To be honest, I don't know if I would have gone to the doctor that first
time to 'get the ball moving' so to speak if it weren't for the urgings and
advice of this group. Big (((hugs))) to you all (followed by a comedic Tim
Taylor grunt to all the males to satisfy masculinity's sake ;-))

Best,
Kenneth

"Kenneth Pardue" <kennethNOSPAM@pardue.com> wrote in message
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Hi there Kenneth.

I haven't posted much to you lately, but I've been watching what's
been happening with great interest.

What can I say, but WHOOPEE DO! I really am so happy you are now
getting the insulin and help you so badly needed.

I guess the next thing will be to figure out how you are going to
manage things once the program finishes.
Until then, though, this is just wonderful. I am feeling very
relieved for you.

All the best,

Annette



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Kenneth,

The key to eating a anything that is high carb (i.e. what many people call
forbidden foods) is to allow for portion. Having a small piece of funnel
cake and then walking around to see things is going to do less damage than
having a whole funnel cake and sitting down and people watching for an hour.
We are all human and have foods that we find pleasurable to eat. To
completely deny ourselves of all enjoyable foods sets up a roller coaster of
guilt, frustration, giving up and then having to start over. The key is to
have a very small amount, savor every bit of it. Enjoy it for that moment
then continue with the eating plan that keeps you healthy. I guess the key
to making this bearable sometimes is to be kind to yourself. Rather than
scold yourself for the piece of funnel cake congratulate yourself for all
the wonderful progress you have made!!! What a change from now and your
first few posts!
c


c

"Kenneth Pardue" <kennethNOSPAM@pardue.com> wrote in message
news:vohel1t13nvaf6@corp.supernews.com...

In article <voimujcq6hh0b1@corp.supernews.com>,
"Colleen" <{oopsh_5@hotmail.com}> wrote:

What she said. I have a couple of boxes of very good cookies -- one of
the kind which is a plain cookie with a layer of dark chocolate on the
bottom and the other which is a small pastry shell with almond paste in
it. In the evening I frequently enjoy a small glass of cold milk and
one of these cookies. They're about 11-12 grams of carb apiece, and
with the milk that's about 17-18 grams of carb total. More to the
point, it's a delicious luxurious treat that keeps me from feeling
deprived without doing me damage.

Priscilla

I agree. Learning to eat to control diabetes should be a way of life, not a
punishment. Allowing treats that satisfy the pleasure part of eating make
this a way of life and not a "diet." Sometimes I would much rather have a
large salad with some cold salmon for supper and then have that lucsious
dish of ice-cream for desert. Still eating healthy and keeping my carb
count in control.

c

"Priscilla Ballou" <vze23t8n@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:vze23t8n-C4F2CD.13203512102003@news.verizon.net...

In article <voj6o8alrcpfa6@corp.supernews.com>,
"Colleen" <{oopsh_5@hotmail.com}> wrote:

Well, I was agreeing with you, so I'd be astounded if you disagreed with
me! heh heh

Precisely. Diabetics do not live on broccoli alone!

Yup. Also, regular ice cream can have fewer carbs than "sugar-free" ice
cream. A one half cup serving of some ice creams can be as little as
14-15 grams of carb. I can do that on the evenings I'm not having my
cookie and milk. ;-)

Priscilla

On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:47:36 GMT, dreamstar
<dreamstarrno@spammailtag.com> wrote:


I believe these two methods of eating are another case of YMMV. For
some people, having small treats works very well but others find that
cutting out problem foods completely reduces the cravings. You will
need to try things for yourself and see what works. Don't let someone
else tell you that you absolutely can't do that if it is working for
you.

Congratulations on the progress you have made.
--
BettyB -- www.flamingo-code.com
bettyb at flamingo dash code dot com
"If wishes were Saabs, all type A's would ride"
by Tom Darbyshire & Stephan Underhill

Another hint from a long timer - learn which advice is from posters whose
advice is respected and includes stuff like - InMyHumbleOpinion, and
YourMileageMayVary.
Ignore advice from faddists, people with superiority complexes, and posters
whose credentials are advertised in the post but have no reality.
Nan, Type 2 since 1990

In article <20031012155831.12996.00000166@mb-m19.aol.com>,
naneklund@aol.com (Nan Eklund) wrote:

And pretty please, don't post subject lines that turn into opening lines
of songs in my head! ;-) "Went to my doctor... the other day..."
da-dum-dum-DUM!

;-)

Priscilla

That is good news, Kenneth. I remember your earlier posts and I am
glad you have also worked out a way to get medical care. You're making
great progress. Keep it up!
kaci

"Priscilla Ballou" <vze23t8n@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:vze23t8n-C4F2CD.13203512102003@news.verizon.net...
unable to order off a menu is not one most people will be able to stay
on for life. Because I'm a diabetic for life, I have to find ways to
integrate into my diet small amounts of foods that I found pleasurable
before my dx, or their low carb substitutes.

Being able to occasionally indulge in a moderate serving of Breyer's
low carb ice cream without spiking doesn't compromise my WOE and makes
life much easier!
kaci

"Priscilla Ballou" <vze23t8n@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:vze23t8n-05DD3B.14545312102003@news.verizon.net...
discovered the pleasure a heaping dish of stir-fried broccoli with
onions, carrots, mushrooms, and eggplant can bring!
kaci (don't forget the cayenne)

"Priscilla Ballou" <vze23t8n@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:vze23t8n-753A7F.18525812102003@news.verizon.net...
kaci

"dreamstar" wrote in part ...

I think that stating the obvious can be insulting, if not patronising.
Don't you think? If you eat for pleasure or comfort then there is bound to
be problems. Stopping and starting a regime of eating habits like this does
nothing at all to reinforce newly learned pathways. It is exactly the same
as saying to a junkie "just one shot this week" or try the same analagy with
an alcoholic. All will tell you that there is no such thing as just one
drink. The moment you do then all the resolve learned just gets washed away.
__________________________________________________ ______________

I strongly disagree with your assertion that moderation cannot be learned.
Colleen and myself are two great examples to the contrary. If I want to
have a couple of french fries or a bite of cherry pie, then I do. I don't
have to deny myself the pleasure of certain foods because I have learned how
to eat them in moderation. Like anything worthwhile, it is a learned
behavior perfected over time.

Your analogy to alcohol and drugs is not necessarily a good one as they both
are physically addicting; whereas a food addiction is primarily
psychological. These are two separate issues that are not dealt with in the
same manner. IOW, you can't learn to not be physically addicted to cocaine.
We can; however, learn to eat in moderation. I believe that you are giving
too little credit for what we would generically call "will-power" (a learned
behavior perfected through positive reinforcement).

Arnie -

In article <yKmib.25434$Eo2.13709@newsread2.news.atl.earthlin k.net>,
"kaci" <kcates1@earthlink.net> wrote:

I love broccoli stir-fried in peanut oil with a little oyster sauce.
YUM!

And cold steamed broccoli with mayonaise.

Priscilla