Hello Good People:

Just wanted to share a simple observation which believe it or not has taken a
year or so for me to figure out as a T2 diagnosed 2 years ago. I sure knew
cutting out sugar was most important and have had little trouble doing that. I
do like Splenda. What fooled me was the bad effects Carbs have on my BGs. I
have gotten educated in recent weeks from individuals in this news group
emphasizing the bad effects of Carbs if consuming too many. I must say my
dietition and Doctor did not emphasize this too me as I never had a weight
problem. Also Diabetic cookbooks were misleading in this regard. I reference
the 1999 Oxmoor House cookbook on page 8. "Choose a diet with plenty of
vegetables, fruits and grain products". "These are foods that provide
carbohydrates in your diet which should make up at least one-half of the
calories you consume daily". I have learned that for me fruit and grains
including such things as rice, noodles, lunch bread and potatoes cause pretty
high spikes and FBG levels around 150 most mornings. I have cut out these
products and was surprised how much my BG levels have come down in the last
month. I now need to figure out how I can be sure to take in enough of those
Carbs in a form that will keep my levels under control but for now I am eating
mostly meat and vegetables for dinner, more eggs for beakfast or just a little
amount of cereal for breakfast. No more toast. This may be just what works for
me but I am still curious why there seems to be a school of thought that there
is nothing wrong with "plenty" of complex Carbs just so long as a person is
within a good weight range. For me most carbs are like poison and will need to
be carfully watched. I'm on glucophage/Avandia and it seems that their
contribution to lowering BGs was masked by my Carb intake for many months. In
fact I really wondered if these meds were doing any good at all. I'd appreciate
your thoughts and in fact if you think there is plenty of misinformation about
this issue out there in the medical community.

Larry

Larry did you see an endocriniolgist, When I was diagnosed in l999 I
had trouble getting in control because I didnt fully understand the carb
situation, I found an endo and my numbers have been non diabetic since,
Everyone is different and the amount of carbs they can consume is also
different, Some can do vey lttle, some iin the middle and others over
160 That is why testing is so important, It shows how foods affect
your blood glucose.

I think those people who told you to not eat sugar are from the dark
ages and perhaps you need better educated doctors.

This newsgroup does serve that important person,. We know we cannot do
a high concentrate of carbs

Loretta

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Yes I did early on and he just said it is better to eat 4-6 meal a day but eat
all but sugar most of the time. Well at the time 6 meals a day while working
didn't take very well. I eat 2-3 meals/day and no more with a busy life style.
Larry..ps.. I would like to keep glucophage (1.0-1.5g/d) at a minimun or if
possibe dc with my doc's approval. My endo seemed to emphasize a normal diet
but smaller amounts per meal since I otherwise seemed to be in excellent health
other than HgbA1c at 13. I should have had a repeat just to make sure since I
was in denial and maybe still am to some extent. Gee I can cruise along for the
next 20 years with no Carbs and all will be fine.. Sorry about my sense of
humour or lack there of.. Larry

I must have missed something, did you say a A1c of 13?
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"Boelkowj" <boelkowj@aol.com> wrote in message
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Is *13* a typo? If not, even if your health is excellent now, it probably
won't be for long unless you get it down.

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yes!!

larry

All subsequent HgbA1c's since have been in the 6 range even though FBSs
had/have been around 130+.. What can I say..

larry

On 08 Sep 2003 20:18:10 GMT, boelkowj@aol.com (Boelkowj) wrote:

Hi Larry. I had similar advice to you. The only reason I learnt about
carbs and BGs a little earlier is that I found this wonderful group of
rowdy, frustrating, argumentative, annoying, trolling, spamming,
flaming, likeable and incredibly knowledgable people before you.

Personally, I agree that we need some carbs and totally agree with the
concept of minimizing meds. The only way to find out what you can eat
and what time of day you can eat it is to test. Start by dropping the
simple starches and replacing them with low-GI.
In my case I found that I can eat cereal an hour before bedtime - but
not earlier. YMMV.

Wouldn't it be great if they introduced "ahd and mhd 101" to interns
and dietitian's training. Just a pipedream.











Cheers - Alan

"Boelkowj" <boelkowj@aol.com> wrote in message
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You really must eat at least 3 meals a day. If you skip a meal, your body
could dump glucose and your BG will be too high. Or you could have a hypo.
Skipping a meal is never a good idea.

Don't take dietary advice from a Dr. unless they've had dietary training.
Best to see a dietician.

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