Hi,

I have not posted for a while so I'd like to give a bit of history. I will
keep it short.

Up till about a month ago I was pretty good. Not under 100% control but
glucose levels were well below 200 consistently. I was also on 900 mg of
Neurontin per day for neuropathy and 50mg of tramadol as needed, usually
twice a day.

For a month I lost all my insurance and was out on workman's comp so I
literally had no money to do anything. I had to stop all meds for 30 days. I
never even thought of asking for samples etc.. I was just so distraught.

Anyway, I am just about to go back on my full regiment of meds and have
already started the insulin. My glucose is back down to the 200s etc... The
problem is I have been rationing my Neurontin and have had no tramadol.

For 3 days now I have not slept at all. I keep getting an extreme case of
restless leg syndrome, more like restless body. Do you think this is
directly related to any one thing? Any suggestions on what to do?

I have tried Melatonin and Valerian and they did not help at all.

Thanks for any help!

~Joe

On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 10:25:28 GMT, "Joe Lore" <joelore@comcast.net>
wrote:

Hi Joe

Welcome back.

I wasn't here when you posted back in July, but I went back and had a
look at your story then.
I can't give much help for insomnia, except sympathy. In my night-shift
cab-driving days I suffered from it terribly, so I know how tired and
frustrated you must feel.
I can only suggest a doc; but make sure you tell the doctor your full
story so that you don't get something prescribed to help you sleep that
interacts with your other meds.

On meds; when you were here last time Guy recommended Jennifer's
"test,test,test" advice. Did you try it? If not, read it at
http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm and give it a
try, combined with a sensible diabetic diet which you can modify with
the testing to suit yourself. You may find that you may be able to
reduce your dependance on the meds. This may also reduce the stress on
your system, and who knows, may help in other things like insomnia.

I'm not a doc, that's just my opinion. I'm doing it without meds, but I
realise I haven't had the beast for 17 years like you.

Cheers Alan, T2, Oz
dx May 2002 , A1C 5.8, no meds, diet and not enough exercise.

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"Joe Lore" <joelore@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Well below 200 consistently is meaningless. 200 is not in control. Not
even close!
Down to the 200's? Again, that's out of control. As for Neurontin, it is
not something you can ration. It doesn't work by taking one pill. It only
works after you have completed the ramping up process and have built up
enough in your system for your daily doses to work. I certainly hope you
didn't just stop taking this stuff! That's highly dangerous and could have
caused a seizure. And if you did stop it, then whatever amount you are
taking now is doing nothing for you except perhaps causing side effects.
Your problems are most likely related to your high BG and subsequent
Neuropathy (nerve damage). What to do? Get your BG down where it should
be. That's <110 fasting, <140 at two hours after eating. Some people aim
for <140 at one hour after eating, <120 at two hours after eating. At any
rate, you don't want to go beyond 140. I have Neuropathy. If I go >150,
the troubles begin.
Stop trying alternative stuff. Get your BG down and keep it there. That's
the only thing that will help you. Sounds like you were never actually in
control. What type of diet are you on? Perhaps you need to eat less carbs,
be on more meds, or both. Do you exercise? That is vital too.

--
Type 2
http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/

Joe...
How long have you been on tramadol? I was prescribed Tramadol about a
year ago, 50 mg. . Even though I was told that it was not addictive, I
limited my usage to one pill at night, because of neck pain which kept
me from sleeping. It worked beautifully ; it took about an hour to kick
in, and I was able to get to sleep.

About a week ago, about an hour before I normally took the pill, I got
very jittery, my whole body, legs especiallly, became very restless.
The same thing happened the very next night, and again the next night,
same time.
I have read that tramadol is addictive, and I wondered if it now would
take a larger dosage to give me the same relief. At this point, some
persons would have chosen to up their dosage (My perscription calls for
1 tablet every 6 hours) but I chose to discontinue it altogether.
Cause it was scary to think that I might be getting dependent on this
drug.

I know you have other medical problems which may be contributing to your
current one, but,
please, BE CAREFUL with Tramadol
Maxi

Joe

I you are recieving Workmans Comp it shouldn't be difficult for you to
gain access to free or very low cost medcal attention. Check with your
union or local social services department.

jim

Joe, I hope you can see a doctor about this. I dont know if this is
diabetes related or not. I do know that not sleeping for three nigts is
not good. I dont know about the meds you are referring to. Is one of
them a sleeping aid, and if so, perhaps it is an addictive med and you
are going through withdrawal.

It has been a rough road for you in this past year, Hopefully this new
one is better.

Btw your numbers are way to high. Can you brng them down.

Loretta

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of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and
terrorism.

Hi:
For the past several years I have had bouts with not being able
to sleep. My doctor thought it was depression and presecribed
an antidepressent for me. That did seem to work well but this
past year I noticed I had no zest for anything and no motivation
and stopped taking the antidepressent. My moods aren't as even
as they were but I do feel more alive. So I am trying to adjust
my sleeping habits to overcome those sleepless nights.

With that said the anti depressents may work great for you. Why
don't you ask your doctor about this problem and see
what they think.
Dan

Loretta Eisenberg wrote: