On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 19:26:52 -0800, Norm@nospam.com wrote:


as the grandiose stalking piece of shit is a manic-depressive
psychotic its a waste of time to educate him..








--
"Naturally, the common people don't want war, but after all, it is
the leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it is always a
simple matter to drag people along, whether it is a democracy, or a
fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist
dictatorship.Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding
of the leaders.
This is easy. All you have to do is to tell them
they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of
patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every
country."

Hermann Goering, Hitler's Reich-Marshall
at the Nuremberg Trials After World War II

http://www.schizoaffective.org/

nospam@nospam.com and invalid@invalid.com happen to be the same person

one will "imitate" one person and the other will come in with a number of
new "names" in support of whatever the first post was by the same person

the beauty of schizophrenia..... you are never alone


"jake" <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in message
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unfortunate ramblings snipped

On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 07:12:12 -0700, "Tiger Lily" <me@privacy.com>
wrote:

Oh?

Your dog told you this did they?

Dont you think there is enough nonsense and mythology spread about
Schizophrenia without you adding to it?

mental patients like yourself and Pepe/Norm C
who use accusations of mental illness to attempt to discredit others
are like "Uncle Toms" ..throwing stones from their glasshouse.

Do you often project your nonsense on strangers?

I guess you do..

"jake" <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in message
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happen to be the same person

On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:06:29 -0700, "Tiger Lily" <me@privacy.com>
wrote:

Oh well then..
if you say so me@privacy I guess it must be true
huh?

<snicker>

__

Trolls don't destroy groups, people who are either too stupid or too
stubborn to use killfiles destroy their own group.

They're like people who bitch about getting wet but insist on going
out in the rain without an umbrella, then they complain to the
weatherman and expect him to do something about it.

"jake" <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in message
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one will "imitate" one person and the other will come in with a number of
new "names" in support of whatever the first post was by the same person

On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 11:51:19 -0700, "Tiger Lily" <me@privacy.com>
wrote:

whatever you say sweetheart..dont excite yourself..

"jake" <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:asfeuvsk7ojt69d1ajjs4lgudfnj629gg5@4ax.com...
happen to be the same person

one will "imitate" one person and the other will come in with a number of
new "names" in support of whatever the first post was by the same person

On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:17:26 -0700, "Tiger Lily" <me@privacy.com>
wrote:

whatever you say...
take it easy now..

Hi,
Tiger Lily wrote:
"Jake" and "Norm" are two different posters Tiger Lily. If you look
at the headers you can see that they use different versions of Forte
Agent as their newsreaders, and they also live in different time
zones.

Take care,
Carmen

"Carmen" <> wrote in message .news.uni-berlin.de...
Carmen....... Norm@nospam is NOT the same poster as NormC
Jake and the new incarnation of Jakes alter ego can easily use different
newsreaders and post from different computers...... heck...... i have a
choice of 2 right here..... all configured differently from each
other......... i could even be in a different time zone with my other
computer!

Carmen....... we have had to put up with Jake before...... and it looks like
she is moving onto new territories now........ sigh

killfile!

On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:19:49 -0700, "Tiger Lily" <me@privacy.com>
wrote:

and different continents?
oh well..



lol...
you are in a different zone sure enough..
the twighlight zone..

and when the threats abuse and stalking stopped he stopped..
funny that..


SHE???
damn cheek..!

now you are getting the idea..

you dont threaten..or intefere with offline lives..you use your
fillters and then these problems of how to drive people out of public
unmoderated groups do not arise..

its a public group not a private one..get used to the idea..

On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 07:12:12 -0700, "Tiger Lily" <me@privacy.com>
wrote:

first both of those email addresses are commonly used by many people
not just fruit cakes and trolls and shills. second why are you and
the other regular diabetic posters continuing to cross post this crap
to the loony newsgroups it was being cross posted too?

Mack
Type 1 since 1975
http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org
http://www.insulin-pumpers.org

In tribute to the United States of America and the State
of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and
terrorism.

On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:11:48 -0500, Mack <asdnospam@example.com>
wrote:

because Norman Chudcoff has told her to of course..

He has posted quite brazenly that subscribers to
unmoderated usenet groups are "sheep" to be herded about by him..
and that they dont work otherwise..

thats what al this nonsense is about..
him trolling about various newsgroups on his manic "mission"
trying to whip up a "gang " to drive out disapproved posters from
"his" newsgroup.

mack..... does this prove to you that the 2 posters are one and the same?
it's hard to trace thru google with x-no archives and the many changing
names

i guess it's a matter of ignoring them

"jake" <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in message @4ax.com...

On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 07:08:03 -0700, "Tiger Lily" <me@privacy.com>
wrote:

and why or how do you think a delineation of the ugly motivations
behind this madness prove any such thing?

Have you the gall to attempt to
deny it?



what x-no-archive?
dont use such..

Its a question of stopping threatening
and trying to blackmail people because of their
medical history or racial origins...

and accepting that anyone from anywhere in the world
can post about their problems with sleep disorder to
a public group without harassment from your
cyberthug...

Do you really imagine he will not turn on you and post your emails
or revel what he has gleaned of your psychiatric history
as he has gleefully done with so many others?




--
The more tyrants pillage, the more they crave, the more they ruin and
destroy; the more one yields to them, and obeys them, by that much do they
become mightier and more formidable, the readier to annihilate and destroy.
But if not one thing is yielded to them, if, without any violence they are
simply not obeyed, they become naked and undone and as nothing, just as,
when the root receives no nourishment, the branch withers and dies.

- Éttiene de la Boétie in Discourse of Voluntary Servitude 1553, written at
the age of 22 while a law student at the University of Orléans

On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:46:12 +0000, jake <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:

then trim the headers and leave him to post in his newsgroup or better
yet use your kill file.

no-one cares about the non diabetic groups except those who post in
them. Let them have their own fun without us.

Mack
Type 1 since 1975
http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org
http://www.insulin-pumpers.org

In tribute to the United States of America and the State
of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and
terrorism.

On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 07:08:03 -0700, "Tiger Lily" <me@privacy.com>
wrote:

I've used both those email addresses does that make me them?

yep.

Mack
Type 1 since 1975
http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org
http://www.insulin-pumpers.org

In tribute to the United States of America and the State
of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and
terrorism.

On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 14:44:20 +0000, jake <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:

since you added non diabetic groups to that reply to Tig's post it is
clear that you are simply trolling for attention.

trolls are truly sad and pathetic people, no way to get attention in
real life so they come to the net and pretend to be what they are to
scared to be in real life only to end up being assholes in the end.

Mack
Type 1 since 1975
http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org
http://www.insulin-pumpers.org

In tribute to the United States of America and the State
of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and
terrorism.

On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 16:13:03 -0500, Mack <asdnospam@example.com>
wrote:

Is that why you finally left sci.med.cardiology, Troll?

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap031203.html
Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.