Topic: noni fruit ; promegranate fruit ; mangosteen fruit

I recently saw an ad from a nutritional supplement seller (maybe, Swanson
Health Products?) featuring a capsule containing powder from these fruits:
noni fruit; promegranate fruit; and mangosteen fruit.

I got some of the noni juice concentrate. I haven't noticed anything when I
take it. Maybe its doing some good. Who knows???

"George Lagergren" <gel44@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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| Topic: noni fruit ; promegranate fruit ; mangosteen fruit
|
| I recently saw an ad from a nutritional supplement seller (maybe, Swanson
| Health Products?) featuring a capsule containing powder from these fruits:
| noni fruit; promegranate fruit; and mangosteen fruit.
|
|

In article <DQfEe.7602$oZ.4992@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.n et>, George
Lagergren said:

A couple of resources which may be of interest ...

Some general info:
http://www.canoeplants.com/noni.html
http://www.tipsofallsorts.com/noni.html

Just to be balanced, the skeptic's viewpoint:
http://www.theness.com/encyc/nonifruitjuice-encyc.html

Hope this is useful!

Neil
Alternative Network Directory
http://www.and-world.com
http://forum.and-world.com

Stacy wrote:
Ask the guy you bought it from how his bank account is doing.

Neil Trotter wrote:
You forgot to mention that it is full of chemicals and acids.

http://www.nonijuice.us/how-noni-juice-works.htm

YUMMY!

"Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
news:CVrEe.12700$_x.8009@fe11.lga...
You forget to mention:

"Have a couple Noni trees in my back yard. The fruit looks ugly, the
smell quite strong but I have been ingesting it for years and feel like
I can live forever."

George Lagergren wrote:

And, I recently saw a stop light turn red. All the traffic heading
north and south stopped. While the East/West traffic finally started
moving.

My question to you is: So, what? Are you suffering from dementia?
Or, are you just an idiot?

"Mr-Natural-Health" <johngohde@naturalhealthperspective.com> wrote in
message news:1122181750.914971.84680@g14g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
|
| George Lagergren wrote:
|
| > I recently saw an ad from a nutritional supplement seller (maybe,
Swanson
| > Health Products?) featuring a capsule containing powder from these
fruits:
| > noni fruit; promegranate fruit; and mangosteen fruit.
|
| And, I recently saw a stop light turn red. All the traffic heading
| north and south stopped. While the East/West traffic finally started
| moving.

That's funny.
|
| My question to you is: So, what? Are you suffering from dementia?
| Or, are you just an idiot?

But this is just nasty.

Was not that much for a large bottle. About $14. No more than many other
supps. And you only take a tablespoon a day.

I'm inclined to believe it has some good effects and have read some good
science on it. I think it has suffered some bad press because of the people
trying to profit from reselling it. I got mine from Life extension
foundation.

Put it into a search on pubmed.org and you will find some positive results.

"Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
news:PTrEe.12699$_x.7069@fe11.lga...
| Stacy wrote:
| > I got some of the noni juice concentrate. I haven't noticed anything
when I
| > take it. Maybe its doing some good. Who knows???
|
| Ask the guy you bought it from how his bank account is doing.
|
| >
| > "George Lagergren" <gel44@earthlink.net> wrote in message
| > newsQfEe.7602$oZ.4992@newsread2.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
| > | Topic: noni fruit ; promegranate fruit ; mangosteen fruit
| > |
| > | I recently saw an ad from a nutritional supplement seller (maybe,
Swanson
| > | Health Products?) featuring a capsule containing powder from these
fruits:
| > | noni fruit; promegranate fruit; and mangosteen fruit.
| > |
| > |
| >
| >

Stacy wrote:
And, so is George Lagergren, the Troll, my post was directed at.

Tolls, like George, babble and idiots, like you, actually reply to him.


Just my opinion, but I am right as usual.

"Mr-Natural-Health" <johngohde@naturalhealthperspective.com> wrote in
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| Stacy wrote:
| > "Mr-Natural-Health" <johngohde@naturalhealthperspective.com> wrote in
| > message news:1122181750.914971.84680@g14g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
| > |
| > | George Lagergren wrote:
| > |
| > | > I recently saw an ad from a nutritional supplement seller (maybe,
| > Swanson
| > | > Health Products?) featuring a capsule containing powder from these
| > fruits:
| > | > noni fruit; promegranate fruit; and mangosteen fruit.
| > |
| > | And, I recently saw a stop light turn red. All the traffic heading
| > | north and south stopped. While the East/West traffic finally started
| > | moving.
| >
| > That's funny.
| > |
| > | My question to you is: So, what? Are you suffering from dementia?
| > | Or, are you just an idiot?
| >
| > But this is just nasty.
|
| And, so is George Lagergren, the Troll, my post was directed at.
|
| Tolls, like George, babble and idiots, like you, actually reply to him.
|
|
| Just my opinion, but I am right as usual.

You sound like the only TROLL I've seen here. You're a nasty unlikable
person and I will not respond to you again.

Killfile you.

|

Stacy wrote:
This is a newsgroup, Dear!

Just thought that you might want to know.

Time for females to stop worrying about the feelings of slimy Trolls
like George. In other words, Dear, try growing up!!!!

Keep in mind that this has a laxative effect. I tried this under the
recommendation of my docs but ended up in the bathroom more than usual. UM
MOM Susan
"Stacy" <nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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The stuff is PURE fraud, and there is NO "good science" their medical
director Neil Solomon has a long history, including fraud, and turning
in his license to avoid prosecution (he is under a consent agreement
never to practice medicine or give medical advice)

The Noni scammers are banned in a number of states for consumer fraud.

We could go on

Stacy wrote:
--
"...in addition to being foreign territory the past is, as history, a
hall of mirrors that reflect the needs of souls observing from the present"
Glen Cook

In article <TYWdnURJde9CBn7fRVn-hw@adelphia.com>,
Stacy <nospam@yahoo.com> wrote:
Gohde isn't a troll, he's a self-professed "expert" on health
matters. He has to be self-professed, because it's certain that
nobody else will confer the title on him. He also has no teeth,
which really undermines his claims at great knowledge of health.
(I don't claim to be an expert on the subject, but at least I
have my own teeth.)

It's also highly amusing that Gohde calls someone an idiot for
responding to George in the *same thread* where Gohde responded to
George, thus making Gohde an idiot by his own definition.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"I believe that sex is one of the most beautiful, wholesome and
natural things that money can buy."
-- Steve Martin

Who's "Neil Solomon" ?

And there are several places to buy noni juice/powder from. It's not like
just one guy is making money on this. That would be like saying the guy
making money on Vitamin A is a fraud and it's sale should be banned!

AND how do you explain the medical studies at pubmed???


"ted rosenberg" <tedrosenberg@iname.com> wrote in message
news:42e3b613$0$59752$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfr eenews.net...
| The stuff is PURE fraud, and there is NO "good science" their medical
| director Neil Solomon has a long history, including fraud, and turning
| in his license to avoid prosecution (he is under a consent agreement
| never to practice medicine or give medical advice)
|
| The Noni scammers are banned in a number of states for consumer fraud.
|
| We could go on
|
| Stacy wrote:
| > Was not that much for a large bottle. About $14. No more than many other
| > supps. And you only take a tablespoon a day.
| >
| > I'm inclined to believe it has some good effects and have read some good
| > science on it. I think it has suffered some bad press because of the
people
| > trying to profit from reselling it. I got mine from Life extension
| > foundation.
| >
| > Put it into a search on pubmed.org and you will find some positive
results.
| >
| > "Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
| > news:PTrEe.12699$_x.7069@fe11.lga...
| > | Stacy wrote:
| > | > I got some of the noni juice concentrate. I haven't noticed anything
| > when I
| > | > take it. Maybe its doing some good. Who knows???
| > |
| > | Ask the guy you bought it from how his bank account is doing.
| > |
| > | >
| > | > "George Lagergren" <gel44@earthlink.net> wrote in message
| > | > newsQfEe.7602$oZ.4992@newsread2.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
| > | > | Topic: noni fruit ; promegranate fruit ; mangosteen fruit
| > | > |
| > | > | I recently saw an ad from a nutritional supplement seller (maybe,
| > Swanson
| > | > | Health Products?) featuring a capsule containing powder from these
| > fruits:
| > | > | noni fruit; promegranate fruit; and mangosteen fruit.
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| >
| >
|
| --
| "...in addition to being foreign territory the past is, as history, a
| hall of mirrors that reflect the needs of souls observing from the
present"
| Glen Cook

Stacy wrote:
Even so, you got nothing out of the money you spent. Remember, P T
Barnum relied on this sales approach.

See below

I think it has suffered some bad press because of the people
Irrelevant. They sell it.

Okey-dokey

"In the dialysis population, Noni juice should be avoided because of its
high potassium content."

"Based on these results, the MR extracts may act as both a suppressor of
bone resorption and an enhancer of bone formation in vivo and may have
some favorable effects for preventing and treating the osteoporosis
induced by sciatic neurectomy."

Those are for people with medical problems.

However, what happens when a healthy person drinks it?

Eur J Gastroenterol Hepatol. 2005 Apr;17(4):445-7. Related Articles, Links


Herbal hepatotoxicity: acute hepatitis caused by a Noni preparation
(Morinda citrifolia).

Millonig G, Stadlmann S, Vogel W.

Clinical Division of Gastroenterology and Hepatology, Medical University
of Innsbruck, Austria. gunda.millonig@uibk.ac.at

A 45-year-old patient was sent to our department because of highly
elevated transaminases and elevated lactate dehydrogenase. His medical
history was unremarkable and he took no medication on regular basis.
Physical examination did not detect any abnormalities. There was no
evidence for viral hepatitis, Epstein-Barr virus or cytomegalovirus,
autoimmune hepatitis, Budd-Chiari syndrome, haemochromatosis or Wilson's
disease. During the interview he admitted that for 'prophylactic
reasons' he had been drinking the juice of Noni (Morinda citrifolia), a
Polynesian herbal remedy made from a tropical fruit, during the
preceding 3 weeks. This gave rise to the suspicion of herbal toxicity,
which was confirmed by a liver biopsy. After ceasing the ingestion of
Noni, transaminase levels normalized quickly and were within normal
ranges 1 month after the first presentation. To our knowledge, this is
the first report of hepatotoxicity caused by this herbal remedy, which
has been highly praised in the tabloid press.

Publication Types:
Case Reports

Hmmmm...hepatotoxic...

No thanks.

And, the only reason you are responding to this THREAD is moi.

That makes you an even bigger fool and waster of time.

Ha, ... Hah, Ha!

Oh, by the way. My site was just re-certified again on 7/21/05.

Just thought that an idiot like you would want to know.

David Wright wrote:

"Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote:
Mark, thanks for this info.

"Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> replied:
Mark, thanks for posting this info.
======================

Your bias is showing here. You didn't list ANY of the positive studies. More
of them than the negative. And you need to put in the proper name. Not
"noni".
You think that if that's all I had read, I would have got some?

Stacy.

"George Lagergren" <gel44@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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|> Stacy wrote:
| > Put it into a search on pubmed.org and you will find some positive
| results.
|
| "Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote:
| > "In the dialysis population, Noni juice should be avoided because of its
| > high potassium content."
| >
| > "Based on these results, the MR extracts may act as both a suppressor of
| > bone resorption and an enhancer of bone formation in vivo and may have
| > some favorable effects for preventing and treating the osteoporosis
| > induced by sciatic neurectomy."
| >
| > Those are for people with medical problems.
|
| Mark, thanks for this info.
|
| > Stacy wrote:
| > However, what happens when a healthy person drinks it?
|
| "Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> replied:
| > Herbal hepatotoxicity: acute hepatitis caused by a Noni preparation
| > (Morinda citrifolia).
|
| Mark, thanks for posting this info.
| ======================
| > Millonig G, Stadlmann S, Vogel W.
| >
| > Clinical Division of Gastroenterology and Hepatology, Medical University
| > of Innsbruck, Austria. gunda.millonig@uibk.ac.at
| >
| > A 45-year-old patient was sent to our department because of highly
| > elevated transaminases and elevated lactate dehydrogenase. His medical
| > history was unremarkable and he took no medication on regular basis.
| > Physical examination did not detect any abnormalities. There was no
| > evidence for viral hepatitis, Epstein-Barr virus or cytomegalovirus,
| > autoimmune hepatitis, Budd-Chiari syndrome, haemochromatosis or Wilson's
| > disease. During the interview he admitted that for 'prophylactic
| > reasons' he had been drinking the juice of Noni (Morinda citrifolia), a
| > Polynesian herbal remedy made from a tropical fruit, during the
| > preceding 3 weeks. This gave rise to the suspicion of herbal toxicity,
| > which was confirmed by a liver biopsy. After ceasing the ingestion of
| > Noni, transaminase levels normalized quickly and were within normal
| > ranges 1 month after the first presentation. To our knowledge, this is
| > the first report of hepatotoxicity caused by this herbal remedy, which
| > has been highly praised in the tabloid press.
| >
| > Publication Types:
| > Case Reports
| >
| > Hmmmm...hepatotoxic...
| >
| > No thanks.
|
|