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Milk not best for strong bones, report finds
Posted by Tim Campbell




Children need exercise, calcium-rich foods, researchers say
The Associated Press
Updated: 2:16 p.m. ET March 7, 2005
http://www.chreese.com/pop.php?file=news/calcium

CHICAGO - Children who drink more milk do not necessarily develop
healthier bones, researchers said Monday in a report that stresses
exercise and modest consumption of calcium-rich foods such as tofu.

The government has gradually increased recommendations for daily
calcium
intake, largely from dairy products, to between 800 and 1,300
milligrams
to promote healthy bones and prevent osteoporosis.

But the report, published in the journal Pediatrics, said said boosting

consumption of milk or other dairy products was not necessarily the
best
way to provide the minimal calcium intake of at least 400 milligrams
per
day.

Other ways to obtain the absorbable calcium found in one cup of cow's

milk include a cup of fortified orange juice, a cup of cooked kale or
turnip greens, two packages of instant oats, two-thirds cup of tofu, or

1-2/3 cups of broccoli, the report said.

In a review of 37 studies examining the impact of calcium consumption
on
bone strength in children older than 7, researchers at the Physicians
Committee for Responsible Medicine in Washington found 27 did not
support drinking more milk to boost calcium.

"Currently, available evidence does not support nutrition guidelines
focused specifically on increasing milk or other dairy product intake
for promoting child and adolescent bone mineralization," lead
researcher
Amy Lanou wrote.

Doctors urge longer breast-feeding : Exercise more important

Several studies, which examined such factors as bone density and rate
of
fractures, concluded that exercise may be more important than increased

calcium consumption in developing strong bones.

Data was scarce on the effect of calcium intake for children younger
than 7 years. Dairy products provide 18 percent of the total energy and

25 percent of the total fat intake in the diets of American children,
who are developing increasing rates of obesity.

In an accompanying commentary, Frank Greer, a pediatrician at the
University of Wisconsin in Madison, said the ideal way to achieve the
goal of healthy bones is to make sure children exercise and consume up
to 1,300 milligrams a day of calcium.

The easiest way to get that calcium is from low-fat dairy products,
which also contain valuable nutrients such as vitamin D, which is
generally not available from other dietary sources, he wrote.

Posted by George Lagergren


"Tim Campbell" <timcall@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Tim, if as the anti-dairy folks say that all dairy (including cow's
milk) products is bad for the human body, why should someone consume even
low-fat dairy products?




Posted by Tim Campbell



George Lagergren wrote:
True enough, George. Though I occasionally eat low fat cottage cheese
with my flax oil.


Posted by drceephd2@netscape.com


The easiest way to get calcium may be from milk, but is that calcium
really nutritious and useful or is it more like drinking chalk?

Why not do what the cow does? The cow gets her calcium from the greens
that the cow eats. Why not just have the children eat more nutritious
foods and allow their bodys to absob and utilize the calcium and other
minerals that they need as well as letting them play outside in the
sunshine for their vitamin D needs and the exercise?
What does ease of getting calcium have to do with health?
It is better that you have to work for it. Grow the food, harvest the
food, then eat the food. Your bones will thank you.

DrC PhD

Posted by Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com


What report? Bullshit.

Posted by Pizza Girl


You have been out of medical school too long.

When you attended they told you allergies were al in your head still.

Welcome to the 90s

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Posted by David Wright


In article <1115866946.247283.236830@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>,
Tim Campbell <timcall@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Again with the deceptive headlines. Milk may not be the "best" in
some sense, but the headline and lead paragraph imply that it's bad.

Good luck getting kids to eat most of those, the OJ aside.

Yeah, well, PCRM has their own agenda, now don't they?

A telling point, and you need the D to absorb the calcium.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"I don't need someone to tell me that George W. Bush is a
deceitful, corrupt, clever and destructive man--that's pretty
clear on the face of it." -- Garrison Keillor




Posted by David Wright


In article <1115927682.788746.114150@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups .com>,
<drceephd2@netscape.com> wrote:
What the cow does is eat grass, Chuck. I suggest you try a diet of
exclusively grass -- you will soon starve to death and we will be
freed of your nutty postings.

Oh, you don't mean we should eat grass? Well, then I guess we can't
do exactly what the cow does, can we? That opens up quite a bit of
leeway. And the cow would not do well on a meat-based diet, but
humans can handle it fine.

Your family will not, however, since you'll be occupying so much of
your time that you won't be able to hold a job. After you're evicted,
you may want to reassess the whole approach.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"I don't need someone to tell me that George W. Bush is a
deceitful, corrupt, clever and destructive man--that's pretty
clear on the face of it." -- Garrison Keillor

Posted by mlowry3@bellsouth.net


David Wright wrote:

Chuck has a job?

Mark, MD


Posted by Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com


<<

They told me no such thing.

And anyway, by what monumental piece of insufferable egotism do you
propose to tell ME what *I* was told in medical school? You think maybe
you were sitting a few rows down, listening to what I was, but taking
better notes? Listen babe, unless your real name is Jan Bernheisel,
you can FOAD.

SBH


Posted by George Lagergren


"Pizza Girl" wrote:
"Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com" <sbharris@ix.netcom.com> replied:
During your med school years, were the med students ever taught that
the root cause of many cases of ear infections and strep throats was the
drinking of cow's milk?





Posted by Dr_Dickie



"Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com" <sbharris@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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Come on SB, you usually don't let the trolls get to you.
Best course of action is to stick to talking to sane folks, course that is
tough on Usenet ;-)

--
Dr. Dickie
Skepticult member in good standing #394-00596-438
Poking kooks with a pointy stick.
"The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new
discoveries,
is not 'Eureka!' ('I found it!'), but rather 'hmm....that's funny...'"
- Isaac Asimov



Posted by banmilk@hotmail.com



Dr_Dickie wrote:

Just one problem. Dr. Harris, well known dairy industry shill isn't
sane "folks" himself.







Posted by Pizza Girl


It definitely sounds like I touched a nerve there. The truth is hard to
swallow when some unknown person pulls your dark secret of ignorance and
brainwashing by your cherished organizations Gods out of the box.

This is true. You were taught that vitamins made the most expensive urine
you will ever see , never accept or give a referral to/from a Chiropractor
and that food allergies are all imaginary.

If you were not taught that either
a) you never went to a medical college before 1990
or
b) you are a Doctor of Chiropractic or some nonallopathic medical field.


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Posted by David Wright


In article <1115957248.181768.205610@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups .com>,
mlowry3@bellsouth.net <mlowry3@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Does seem implausible, doesn't it? I didn't really mean *he* had a
job, I was speaking more in general.

I think he claims to be some sort of health advisor, but that's
probably as much of a myth as his supposed PhD.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"I don't need someone to tell me that George W. Bush is a
deceitful, corrupt, clever and destructive man--that's pretty
clear on the face of it." -- Garrison Keillor

Posted by David Wright


In article <1116018678.087416.188500@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>,
<banmilk@hotmail.com> wrote:
As though "banmilk" were in any shape to judge.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"I don't need someone to tell me that George W. Bush is a
deceitful, corrupt, clever and destructive man--that's pretty
clear on the face of it." -- Garrison Keillor

Posted by David Wright


In article <1116040299.f21bac9884372de1d56698be132389ee@teran ews>,
Pizza Girl <nospam@4.me> wrote:
Why is it that whenever some numbskull posts inflammatory bullshit,
and someone else justifiably reacts to it, the original numbskull
announces that they "touched a nerve"?

That might be true, Pizza Face, but it'll be a cold day in hell when
you're the person to do it.

Truth is not in you.

That's often true.

"Never accept?" Ha.

No doubt those allergic reactions to peanuts that kill people every
year are just 'imaginary."

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"I don't need someone to tell me that George W. Bush is a
deceitful, corrupt, clever and destructive man--that's pretty
clear on the face of it." -- Garrison Keillor






Posted by Rich



"George Lagergren" <gel44@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Of course they were not told that, because it is simply not true.

--Rich



Posted by George Lagergren


"George Lagergren" wrote:
It is true. The root cause of my strep throats twice a year for
thirty years was the
drinking of cow's milk. When I stopped drinking cow's milk, my strep
throats dis-appeared forever.





Posted by Rich



"George Lagergren" <gel44@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Coincidence at best. Correlation does not prove cause-effect.

--Rich