Does anyone in this forum have experience with diabetic heal wounds covered
with the thick scabs called eschar? If so, I'd love to trade thoughts on
the matter.

James Bath

Why not apply Tea Tree Oil and Vit E. Helps with a lot of scars ask
your dermatologist or naturopath that provides your medical care.

jamesbath@bellsouth.net wrote:

So I take it you don't have experience with this type of wound?


<bistoury@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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AND, why not shoot yourself in the head

Listning to assholes like this will make you worse

bistoury@earthlink.net wrote:

Understood. But I (or rather my wife) is still facing the same issues. I'd
like to communicate with someone who has experience in dealing with heal
wounds and eschar in people with poor peripheral vascular circulation.

Specifically, her wounds seem to be progressing well enough, and have been
for several months. The eschar is shrinking in diameter, and new skin
growth is converging in toward the center of the wound, but still with the
better part of an inch to go. My chief fear at this point is what to do
*IF* her eschar is accidentally pulled off. She still has crater-like
wounds (I can tell by shining a pen light under the edge of the eschar).

If the ungranulated part of the wound becomes exposed, I want to know how
best to dress the wound, or at least some ballpark ideas about it. Right
now, I'm using povidine-iodine, as directed by health care workers (who are
no longer readily available). It's difficult finding info on the web about
this particular type of wound management. The likelihood of having quick
access to a doctor -- especially one who understands these matters -- is
low.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
James Bath




"Ted Rosenberg" <tedrosenberg@iname.com> wrote in message
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I had two disc-shaped areas taken out of my ankles (inside). I was sent to a
wound-management clinic here in Mpls that used a gel-like substance along
with a breathable moleskin cover. It took a long time but gradually it
filled in with tissue. They're still sensitive, and I have worn compression
stockings ever since. The new thing was apparently to keep the area moist
(not real moist, but pliable).
If you think this is something that sounds like what you're looking for I'll
post the actual name of the gel.

HTH
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<jamesbath@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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Yes, please post the name of the gel. I can at least discuss it over the
phone with a wound care specialist. Also, the moleskin cover is a new term
to me. Can you add a little detail on that, too?

Thanks loads,
James Bath



"t2_lurking" <t2_lurking@abbottandabbott.com> wrote in message
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I'll have to post when I get home. I think I still have the name of the Dr.
and clinic. This was about 8 years ago and it was described to me as
cutting-edge, so to speak.
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First it was Atstein.

Now it's the Super Bowl Champion New England Patriots!

How can I be such a fool?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++


<jamesbath@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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Thanks a bunch. Looking forward to your post.

James


"t2_lurking" <t2_lurking@abbottandabbott.com> wrote in message
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Hi,

I am a constant "lurker" on these boards. I have read and learned a lot from
you folks, but one of the reasons why I do not post is because of people
like Ted Rosenberg. He definitely has issues (i.e., asshole) and does
nothing (in my opinion) to increase the value of this newsgroup. I never
thought that my first post would be this type of post - how sad.

Thanks,

Adam


"Ted Rosenberg" <tedrosenberg@iname.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 16:55:24 -0500, "Adam" <switzr*REMOVE*@yahoo.com>
wrote:

if you don't post using Ted as your excuse, your problems are more
than we can help with. you are in complete control of what you read
and do not read. you are not a victim. even though you chose to claim
the title for yourself.

and Ted's response was not to the original posted per se as much as it
was sarcasm directed at the bistoury troll's suggestion of seeing a
naturopath for diabetic care or the care of any other problem.

naturopaths will sell you anything you do not need and claim it will
cure you.

Mack
Type 1 since 1975
http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org
http://www.insulin-pumpers.org

In tribute to the United States of America and the State
of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and
terrorism.

"Adam" <switzr*REMOVE*@yahoo.com> wrote:

I humbly suggest a change of vantage point. This group is just like any
other community, and some of the people are of the type you wouldn't listen
to at a cocktail party, and you needn't here either. Either use your
"mental killfile" (just like real life, ignore 'em), or set your reader to
drop the posts of those you feel have nothing to contribute. I myself
hardly ever use the killfile, because I learned the fine art of not
listening years ago...
Basic rule of life (the Net is not exempt): "Ninety percent of everything
is crud." The other ten percent makes it worth it.

But that's just my opinion.

I could be wrong.



Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at www.albany.net/~gwoods
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 17:04:24 -0500, Gary Woods <gwoods@albany.net>
wrote:

Hi Gary,

The only thing you have wrong is the percentage. Ninety percent is
excessively optimistic. But the other one percent makes life wonderful
at times.


Cheers Alan, T2, Oz.
dx May 2002 , A1C 5.8, no meds, diet and not enough exercise.
I have no medical qualifications beyond my own experience.
Choose your advisers carefully, because experience
can be an expensive teacher.

--
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.

"Adam" <switzr*REMOVE*@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1076104438.972709@sj-nntpcache-5...
Actually, Ted is one of the good guys. His language can be a bit harsh at
times, but nobody has chased away more spammers/scammers than Ted. His
reply was to one such person.

--
Type 2
http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/

Ok here we go:
The gel is Smith + Nephew "IntraSite Gel"
The moleskin is Smith + Nephew Sterile R "Allevyn". Comes in an 8x8 sheet.

HTH
--

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++
How can Sleepyman be so right about so many different things?

First it was Atstein.

Now it's the Super Bowl Champion New England Patriots!

How can I be such a fool?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++


<jamesbath@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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Got it. Thanks a lot.

james

"t2_lurking" <t2_lurking@abbottandabbott.com> wrote in message
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James. the iodine stuff is a harsh and can cause some serious "burn
type" skin places. I also know that the medical community always uses
the stuff. I learned about the iodine thing when I was first diagnosed
some 50 yrs ago. I still have the same opinion now. and use Hibiclens
instead (still kills the gram neg and post bugs) I am also allergic to
the crap. As always this is a YMMV thing, and it is JMO. Personally I
think that diabetics should not use iodine, and it is just as harsh on
healthy folks to.....Hope your wife's wound heals up well and stays that
way.....Mic

Always, be, and stay AWARE!

Yes a lot from all types of incidents from stabbns to gun wounds with
major scars especially those that form Keloids.

jamesbath@bellsouth.net wrote:

Naturopaths are licensed in many states the same as allopathic
practitioners. Washington, Oregon and California just for a couple.
Had you been able to read you would have noticed that I stated see your
dermatologist. Last time I looked a dermatologist is an allopathic
practitioner.
I have had enough non-healing wounds to know what it takes to heal them,
at least on this body. Once you get stabbed and shot a few times you
learn how to handle regranulation of tissues.

Thanks for the input, Mic. I will check deeper into the iodine thing.
Hadn't even considered it being a possible danger. It is povidone-iodine.
The povidone, I think, is a polymer mixed with it in order to give it
"time-release" properties. Perhaps this tones down the harshness -- do you
know?

James


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