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Dairy and Mucus Production
Posted by Tim Campbell




The American Dairy Association has a new marketing campaign that may
oneday replace their successful milk mustache campaign. The Dairy
Education Board welcomes the opportunity to reveal the secret powers of

concentrated milk.

HOW MUCH CHEESE DO AMERICAN'S EAT?

In 1970, the dairy industry produced 2.2 billion pounds of cheese. The
population of the United States was 203 million, which translates to
10.8 pounds of cheese per person. By 1990, America's population had
grown to 248 million, but Americans were eating more cheese, 6 billion
pounds worth!

That's an average of 24 pounds per person. In 1994, according to the
USDA, the average American consumed 27.7 pounds of
cheese. America's rate of cheese consumption is skyrocketing. As we
approach the new millennium, America's per-capita cheese consumption
will break the 30-pound per person level.


The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) allows 750 million pus cells in
every liter of milk (about two pounds). In Europe, regulators allow 400

million pus cells per liter. France and Italy are known for their
magnificent cheeses.
Perhaps that's the secret

Since it takes 10 pounds of milk to make one pound of cheese, a pound
of
cheese can contain up to 7.5 billion pus cells. If your American cheese

is sliced so that there are 16 slices to a pound, that single slice of
American or Swiss can contain over 468 million pus cells.

Eighty percent of milk protein consists of casein, a tenacious glue.
Casein is the glue that is used to hold a label to a bottle of beer.
Try to scrape off one of those labels, then consider the effects of
casein in your body. Casein is the glue that holds together wood in
furniture. Behold the power of glue and behold the power of horrible
bowel movements.

Casein is a foreign protein and your body reacts to its presence by
creating an antibody.

That antibody-antigen reaction creates
histamines.

Anti-histamines (like Benadryl) are used to counter the
effects of histamines.

Mucus and phlegm are produced as a result of
cheese consumption.

Mucus congests internal body organs.

Mucus creates phlegm.

The average
American lives his or her life with a gallon of mucus clogging the
kidney, spleen, pancreas, tracheal-bronchial tree, lungs, thymus, etc.

Imagine not eating cheese or any other dairy product for just six days.

An internal fog will lift from your body as the mucus leaves. Eat just
one slice of pizza on day seven, and twelve to fifteen hours later, the

mucus will return.

Got Gorgonzola?
Got glue!


In the name of science, the dairy industry sponsors studies in which
people drink milk. These laboratory subjects then answer surveys about
what the insides of their mouths feel like. Biased dairy scientists
then conclude that milk and dairy products cause no mucus.

BEHOLD THE POWER OF AUTOPSY

Florence Griffith Joyner had undigested cheese in her stomach fifteen
hours after eating pizza. Her internal organs were acutely congested
with mucus and her neck revealed finger marks from where she tried to
choke herself, gasping for breath. Behold the power of a killer.

Got Mozzarella? Got mucus!

BEHOLD THE POWER OF HORMONES

Every sip of milk has 59 different powerful hormones. Which ones do you

want your little girls to take?

Estrogen, progesterone or prolactin?

In her lifetime, as a little girl becomes a big girl, then a mature
woman, she will produce the total equivalent of one tablespoon of
estrogen. Hormones work on a nanomolecular lever, which means that it
takes a billionth of a gram to produce a powerful biological effect.

The average American now consumes nearly thirty pounds of cheese each
year. That product contains concentrated hormones.

One pound of cheese can contain ten times the amount of hormones as one

pound of milk. Nursing cows were never supposed to pass on cheese to
their calves.

They were, however, designed to pass on hormones, lactoferrins, and
immunoglobulins in liquid milk to their infants.

Got Romano?
Got raging hormones!

See (http://www.notmilk.com/deb/072698.html) on hormones.

BEHOLD THE POWER OF ANTIBIOTICS

Got American cheese?
Got antibiotics.

Consumers Union and the Wall Street Journal tested milk samples in the
New York metropolitan area and found the presence of 52 different
antibiotics. Eat ice cream, yogurt,
and cheese toppings, and you're also consuming antibiotics. Cows are
fed chicken feces as supplemental protein. The droppings are baked and
sanitized but the heat process does not destroy the hormones in chicken

feed.

Got Parmesan?
Got penicillin!

In February of 1999, the Land of Lakes Company recalled nearly four
hundred thousand cases of cheese products from supermarkets in every
one
of America's 50 states.

Cheese makes a remarkable culture medium for bacteria, which stay alive

for up to six months. This year's recall was due to listeria. Eat
listeria and it can take up to 45 days for you to get sick.

Would you make the connection?

Cheeses can also contain mycobacterium paratuberculosis which causes
diarrhea and irritable bowel syndrome.

Forty million Americans are so affected.

Got Colby? Got colds!
Got Danish cheese? Got diarrhea!

BEHOLD! The power of cheese!

Robert Cohen
Executive Director
Dairy Education Board
201-871-5871
http://www.NOTMILK.com

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TWENTY-FIVE QUESTION QUIZ
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1) The Townsend Medical Letter for Doctors said this about cow's milk:

a) Adult humans require cow's milk for optimum health. Adult cows need
human milk for optimum health. Adult dogs should drink pig's milk for
optimum health. Adult pigs require aardvark milk for optimum health.

b) Cream cheese has been shown to be an effective decay preventative
dentifrice that can be of significant value when used in a
conscientiously applied program of oral hygiene and regular
professional
care.

c) Cow's milk hormones, saturated fat, and cholesterol offer enormous
benefit for young children. A diet of concentrated milk products
(cheese, ice cream, and butter) will insure that our subscriber base
remains healthy, as will the future cash flow of physicians who read
this newsletter.

d) Cow's milk has been linked to a variety of health problems,
including: mucous production, hemoglobin loss, childhood diabetes,
heart
disease, athersclerosis, arthritis, kidney stones, mood swings,
depression, irritability, and allergies.



2) The most powerful growth hormone produced in a cow's body (and found

in cow's milk) is identical to the most powerful growth hormone in the
human body. That hormone is called IGF. IGF stands for:
a) I've Got Flatulence
b) Idiots Grow Fat
c) Icelandic Gouda's Fabulous
d) Insulin-like Growth Factor



3) The Lancet, Journal of Cellular Physiology, and European Journal of
Cancer have all identified IGF as:

a) A food supplement that removes wrinkles, freckles, cellulite, zits,
and elevates I.Q. points.

b) The most powerful aphrodisiac found in food.

c) The thick mucous-like substance in cow's milk proteins responsible
for the profitability of the Charmin toilet paper company.

d) The key factor in the growth and proliferation of breast, prostate,
and lung cancers.



4) At the first sign of heat treatment (pasteurization) , many bacteria

in milk:
a) Begin a mating ritual that embarrasses even the most permissively
liberal of microbiologists.
b) Begin to gag, then lose the contents of their tiny bacterial
pouches,
secreting their body wastes and toxins into the milk.

c) Perspire nano-liters of sweat before dying, their lifeless bodies
drowning and adding subtle flavors to the milk.

d) Form spores. Spore is a Greek word for seed. When the milk cools,
spores re-emerge into their original bacterial forms.



5) Mycobacterium Paratuberculosis is:
a) The name of the Serbian general turned priest who won the 2001 Nobel

Peace Prize by writing the award winning book, "When NATO Bombs Drop,
Forget the Child, Save the Cow."
b) Something that your mate will not believe you caught from a toilet
seat in a public restroom.

c) The polite thing to say to a Flemish dairy farmer who sneezes liters

of phlegm.

d) A bacterium found in many of America's dairy herds and 100% of
Crohn's disease patients. These bacteria are not destroyed by
pasteurization, and cross the species barrier from cow to human.



6) A leading diabetes journal(Diabetes Care) wrote the following in
1974: "More than 20 well-documented studies have prompted one
researcher
to say the link between milk and juvenile diabetes is `very solid." The

dairy industry's response was to:
a) Design a chocolate milk mustache advertisement that used Rugrats,
children's cartoon characters to promote milk drinking for infants.
b) Design milk ads using Pokemon characters and Kermit the Frog to
promote the consumption of milk for young children.

c) Neither A nor B

d) Both A and B



7) The Chief of Pediatrics at Johns Hopkins Medical School (Frank Oski)

and America's most famous pediatrician, Benjamin Spock, agreed upon
this
treatment for childhood ear infections:

a) Both physicians studied at the French Institute of Van Goghzia, and
agreed that surgical removal of the ear would effectively eliminate ear

infections.

b) Both physicians recommended that surgical implants be considered for

children suffering from ear infections.

c) Both physicians agreed that ritalin, valium, and a continuous diet
of
Benadryl and other anti-histamines would be an appropriate therapy to
treat chronic ear infections.

d) Both physicians recommended a protocol in which all milk and dairy
products should eliminated from the diets of all children.



Saturated bovine fat contained in milk, cheese, ice cream and other
dairy products:

a) Is necessary for human brain development, cognitive functioning, and

become precursors for neural transmitting substances.
b) Is a vital component of human synnovial fluid that lubricates the
joints.

c) Have been identified as the key factors in "getting the juices
going."

d) Have been identified as the single-most causative factor of
America's
obesity epidemic, and the link to heart disease being America's
number-one killer.



9) Cows treated with the genetically engineered bovine growth hormones
produce milk that has been proven to:
a) Result in more snaps, crackles, and pops per standard bowl of Rice
Krispies.
b) Be identical to naturally occurring milk.

c) Promote weight loss, reduce flatulence, and eliminate cellulite.

d) Result in an increase of insulin-like growth factor, a hormone
identified as the key role player in fueling the growth of human breast

cancer, prostate cancer, lung cancer, and colon cancer.



10) An epidemiological study of mortality rates in 24 nations found
that
consumption of these foods resulted in the highest correlation
coefficient to heart disease:
a) Fresh vegetables, particularly broccoli and rutabaga.
b) Beans, beans, NOT good for the hearty, the more you eat, the worse
for the artery.

c) Whole wheat berries and barley (these large uncooked grains get
stuck
in arteries causing coronary thrombosis.

d) Milk and dairy products.



11) The Journal of Pediatrics revealed that cow's milk proteins can
cause blood loss from the intestinal tract, reduce the body's supply of

iron and cause anemia. The recommended therapy:
a) Add powdered iron filings to your next bowl of cereal with soy milk.

b) Bite the bullet.

c) Drink a twelve-ounce glass of human breast milk with your cookies.

d) Avoid all cow's milk and dairy products.



12) According to the New England Journal of Medicine, "Chronic diarrhea

is the most common gastrointestinal symptom of intolerance of cow's
milk
among children." As a parent, what is the best method of eliminating
this messy problem?
a) Eliminate the source. Sell your children to the next band of gypsies

moving through your neighborhood.
b) Save cork stoppers from champagne bottles, and use `em when they're
needed!

c) When the condition occurs, add one cup of corn starch to three
tablespoons of prune juice, stir well, and use a number seven syringe
to
inject the paste directly into your child's stomach cavity.

d) Eliminate all milk and dairy products from your child's diet.



13) Should milk consumers worry about harmful bacterial infections
resulting from milk and dairy consumption? Which statement(s) is/are
true?
a) According to the Journal of Dairy Science, butter readily supports
growth of salmonella at room temperature, but refrigeration or freezing

for brief periods does not eliminate it. Salmonella can remain viable
in
butter for up to 9 months.
b) According to the New England Journal of Medicine, listeria organisms

excreted in cow's milk "escape pasteurization, grow well at
refrigerator
temperatures, and are ingested by consumers."

c) According to leading food journals, curing alone may not be a
sufficient pathogen control step to eliminate Salmonella, listeria, and

E. coli from cheese. A drop of sour milk may contain more than 50
million bacteria.

d) All of the above



14) Lactose intolerance affects 75% of the world's population. Symptoms

include bloating, flatulence, abdominal pain and diarrhea. An effective

cure for eliminating lactose intolerance is:
a) Having elective stomach-staple surgery, tying off your intestines,
and satisfying future nutritional needs by intravenous feeding.
b) Investing your assets in a portfolio that includes the Pampers
diaper
company and Johnson's baby powder, buying a year's supply of adult
stay-dries, and drinking all the milk you want.

c) Taking an antidote, lactaid, so that you may tolerate the poison,
milk.

d) Don't drink your milk.



15) Normal cows become Mad Cows after:
a) Their mothers force them to drink three glasses of human breast milk

each day.
b) They witness their mothers and sisters being loaded onto packed
trucks and shipped to slaughterhouses.

c) They are injected with genetically engineered hormones that swell
their udders to painful proportions which require three milkings per
day.

d) They are fed blood meal, bone meal, and flesh from their relatives.



16) Nutritionists and food scientists agree: Humans need to eat
protein.
Eighty percent of milk protein is a substance called 'CASEIN.' When
casein is isolated from milk, it can be used:
a) In the manufacturing process for plastic.
b) As a glue to hold together wood in furniture.

c) As an adhesive to attach a label to a beer bottle.

d) All of the above.



17) Please read the following statements carefully. Which ONE is NOT
true?
a) Countries with the highest rates of osteoporosis, such as the United

States, England, and Sweden, consume the most milk. China and Japan,
where people eat much less protein and dairy food, have low rates of
osteoporosis.
b) Osteoporosis is caused by a number of things, one of the most
important being too much dietary protein. Dietary protein increases
production of acid in the blood which isneutralized by calcium
mobilized
from the skeleton. Increasing one's protein intake by 100% may cause
calcium loss to double.

c) Data from the 12-year Harvard study of 78,000 women indicate that
women consuming greater amounts of calcium from dairy foods had
significantly increased risks of hip fractures, while no increase in
fracture risk was observed for the same levels of calcium from nondairy

sources.

d) American women have been consuming an average of two pounds of milk
per day for their entire lives, yet thirty million American women have
osteoporosis. Therefore, drinking milk prevents bone loss.



1 Dioxins are highly toxic by-products of industrial processes
including
chemical and municipal waste incineration. These compounds penetrate
the
environment via air, water and soil and are then incorporated in food
chains. The level of dioxin in a single serving of the Ben & Jerry's
World's Best Vanilla Ice Cream tested was almost 200 times greater
than
the safe daily dose determined by the Environmental Protection Agency.
What did Ben Cohen of Ben & Jerry's fame have to say regarding
dioxins?
a) "Our containers are environmentally friendly, and dioxin- free, so
just dump the ice cream, and eat the container."
b) "I just had quadruple bypass heart surgery. Please put your question

in writing, and I'll have my staff get back to you."

c) "We never realized you'd be supremely nuts to continue eating our
Natural Nutty-Nuts Supreme Surprise."

d) Before the test) :"The only safe level of dioxin exposure is no
exposure at all." (After the test) :"It's in the environment."



19) Do pesticides end up in milk, cheese, and butter? Which one of the
following statements is NOT accurate?
a) A 1988 FDA survey of milk samples from grocery stores in 10 cities
found that 73% of the samples contained pesticide residues.
b) More than 2,200 samples of cow's milk were tested in India, and 85%
of the samples contained pesticides levels above human tolerance
limits.


c) The pesticides chlordane and heptachlor cause cancer, harm the
immune
system and are endocrine disruptors. Dairy cattle in Oahu were fed
pineapple leaves containing heptachlor residues. As a result, the local

milk and dairy supply remained contaminated for years.

d) According to the National Fluid Milk Processors, no pesticide
residues have ever been found in milk and dairy products.



20) Milk contains somatic cells, which are dead red and white blood
cells. Another name for somatic cells is "pus cells." America's Food
and
Drug Administration sets the legal standard for the allowable number of

pus cells that can be sold in milk. One liter of American milk may
contain no more than:
a) 75 hundred pus cells
b) 75 thousand pus cells

c) 75 million pus cells

d) 750 million pus cells



21) Which of the following statements did not appear in the British
medical journal Lancet?
a) Hypersensitivity to milk is implicated as a cause of sudden death in

infancy.
b) Those infants who died of SIDS expressed inappropriate or
inflammatory responses suggesting violent allergic reactions to a
foreign protein. Lung tissue and cells showed responses similar to
bronchial wall inflammation in asthma.

c) Those who consumed cows milk were fourteen times more likely to die
from diarrhea-related complications and four times more likely to die
of
pneumonia than were breast-fed babies. Intolerance and allergy to cow's

milk products is a factor in sudden infant death syndrome.

d) Children under the age of two years who consume more that one-pint
of
fortified brandy before going to bed are prone to sudden infant death.



22) On March 23, 1971, Secretary of the Treasury, John Connally said to

President Richard Nixon (recorded on a Watergate tape) : "These
dairymen
are organized, they're adamant, they're militant, and they're massing
an
enormous amount of money that they're going to put into political
activities." What motivated Connally to make this statement?
a) Dairy reps had placed the severed head of a dairy cow in Nixon's
bed,
making him an offer he couldn't refuse.
b) Richard Nixon had just been presented with a compromising
surveillance photo of JFK, RFK, and Marilyn Monroe sporting what
appeared to be the dairy industry's first milk mustache ad.

c) President Nixon had just been given a $10 gift certificate to Dairy
Queen from dairy industry representatives in the Oval Office.

d) President Nixon had just been given a $3 million cash gift from
dairy
industry representatives in the Oval Office.



23) Children are taught in first grade that Vitamin D is the "sunshine
vitamin." Vitamin D is a steroid hormone and is synthesized in one's
body after skin is exposed to sunlight. Which statement about vitamin D

is NOT true?
a) Adults need 10-15 minutes of sunlight, two or three times a week to
ensure proper Vitamin D levels.
b) Vitamin D is toxic in overdose. Consuming as little as 45 micrograms

of Vitamin D-3 in young children has resulted in signs of overdose.
Testing of 10 samples of infant formula revealed seven with more that
twice the Vitamin D content reported on the label, one of which had
more
than four times the label amount.

c) Vitamin D increases aluminum absorption, and high aluminum levels in

the body may cause an Alzheimer's-like disease.

d) If boys and girls do not drink milk with Vitamin D added, when they
turn 40, their bones will become brittle, and break, and they'll need
hip replacement surgery.



24) What has NOT been identified as a cause of acne?
a) Acne occurs when steroids (androgens) stimulate the sebaceous glands

within the skin's hair follicles. These glands then secrete an oily
substance called sebum. When sebum, bacteria and dead skin cells build
up on skin, the pores become blocked, creating acne.
b) About 80 percent of cows that are giving milk are pregnant and are
throwing off hormones continuously. Progesterone breaks down into
androgens, which have been implicated as factor in the development of
acne. Hormones found in cow's milk include: Estradiol, Estriol,
Progesterone, prolactin, and oxytocin.

c) The Journal of Endocrinology studied the effects of growth hormone
(GH) and insulin-like growth factors (IGF-1) , alone and with androgen,

on sebaceous epithelial cell growth. IGF- I was the most potent
stimulus
of DNA synthesis, contributing to the increase in sebum production
during puberty.

d) Acne is caused by frogs, sugar, snails, spice, puppy dog tails, and
everything nice.



25) What is NOT true about the vegetarian NOTMILK lifestyle?
a) According to the Journal of the American Dietetic Association, there

is a positive correlation between a vegetarian diet and reduced risk
for
obesity, coronary artery disease, hypertension, diabetes mellitus, and
cancer.
b) According to the British Medical Journal, vegetarians often have
lower mortality rates from several chronic degenerative diseases than
do
non-vegetarians. Significant athersclerosis is rare in peoples whose
diet over the life span is predominantly vegetarian and low in
calories,
saturated fat, and cholesterol.

c) According to the Journal of the American Medical Association,
vegetarian diets low in fat or saturated fat have been used
successfully
as part of comprehensive health programs to reverse severe coronary
artery disease.

d) Vegans live an average of two decades less than meat- eaters and
milk
drinkers which is just fine with carnivores, who are saved from having
to listen to twenty or more years of irritating lecturing, preaching,
and bragging.




SCORE YOUR TEST RESULTS
Let's make this process really simple, shall we? D is the correct
answer
for all 25 multiple-choice questions. D as in "duh." Unfortunately,
there might be some of you who have been drinking cow's milk since
childhood, so you still don't get it, and may never get it. Award
yourself four points for each correct response.

If you scored 88 or better, you are either a vegan (eat no animal flesh

and drink no body fluids) or a professional cheesehead. You know milk
issues like few people do. You are to be congratulated for your wisdom!

If you scored between 72 and 84, you haven't been paying attention to
the real science contained in Milk A-Z. Go back and study!

If you scored between 52 and 68, you've passed...barely, but only
because
we're grading on a curve. Go sit by yourself in a quiet little corner
and repeat over and over again the following mantra: "Pus with
hormones
and glue...pus with hormones and glue...pus with hormones and glue."
Use
this visualization the next time you are tempted to slurp ice cream,
munch cheddar, or drown yourself in a tub of melted butter.

If you scored below the 50th percentile, instruct your attorney to
re-write your last will and testament and leave your estate to your
doctors. They'll ultimately end up with most of your money, anyway.
Heart disease claims the lives of nearly two out of three Americans,
and
cancers account for one out of every three deaths. The average American

spends ten years dying from coronary-related events or carcinomas. What

you don't know about milk may kill you. The healthy alternative?
Discover the fountain of youth: NOTMILK!

If you scored under 25, you've got very little hope remaining. You are
an udderly absurd excuse for a human, and have earned the right to
continue to consume body fluids from diseased animals. If you are still

ambulatory, treat yourself to Domino's Pizza for dinner and slurp Ben
and Jerry's ice cream for dessert. Set your alarm clock for a 12-hour
wake up call. This might be your last chance, so pay attention to your
body's signals. If your internal sludge and congestion do not convince
you, nothing ever will.





Robert Cohen author of: MILK A-Z
(201-871-5871)
Executive Director (notmilkman@notmilk.com)
Dairy Education Board
http://www.notmilk.com

Posted by Happy Dog


"Tim Campbell" <timcall@sbcglobal.net> wrote in

< absolutely nothing, again >

So she strangled herself? Anyway, idiot Tim, do you believe everything you
read on the net?

moo



Posted by Rich



"Tim Campbell" <timcall@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1115135386.890333.322520@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
Your use of the word "pus" is not only needless scaremongering, it is
incorrect. The cells that are regulated by the FDA are white blood cells.
Pus, the stuff that you squeeze out of the pimple on your nose, is a mixture
of dead and live bacteria, cellular debris, white blood cells, and other
blood components.




Yes, casein makes a good glue. But it doesn't stick stuff together until it
dries, and not much drying takes place in the human body.


No, the body reacts to its presence by digesting it like any other protein.


Histamine reactions to milk occur only in persons with true milk allergies.
The same thing can happen with strawberries or peanuts or a whole range of
other foodstuffs.


So?

Bullshit.


Worse bullshit. Other than infected lungs, sinuses, and noses, what
"internal body organs" ever get congested by mucus?


Sort of . . . and this process is a vital part of the immune system.


Other that the tracheal-bronchial tree and the lungs, these organs contain
no mucus at all. All this "clogging" is imaginary.


Nonsense!


Yes I do. It's delicious!

Yeah, I think I have a bottle of Elmer's out in the garage.

Well, not exactly.


Did you read the autopsy? Though anti-dairy zealots delight in speculating
that Flo-Jo was killed by milk (they love the irony that she participated in
the "Got Milk" ad campaign), the conclusion of the coroners and
investigators is that a seizure secondary to a cavernous angioma and
positional asphyxia combined as the cause of death.



Those substances are largely denatured by the acids and salt in the
production of cheese.What little is left breaks down in the digestive
system.



In trace amounts. Using modern gas chromatography you can find tiny amounts
of just about anything in just about anything. Milk is tested for antibiotic
contamination before it even leaves the farm. If it has more than a tiny
trace of antibiotic, it never leaves the farm at all.


Eat ice cream, yogurt,
The cheese was recalled. The system works.



Mycobacterium paratuberculosis is the causative of Johne's disease in
cattle. It has been studied in association with Crohn's disease and has been
cultured from a few, but by no means all Crohn's patients. The cause of
Crohn's is not fully understood, But M. paratuberculosis is not considered
primary to its etiology. The bacterium is killed by pasteurization.




< the rest is snipped because I don't have the energy to rebut every
half-truth, fabrication, and inflamitory nonsense listed here >

--Rich



Posted by Rich



"Rich" <joshew@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:60Ode.10534$Au1.7946@tornado.socal.rr.com...
By the way, the joke's on you. People with irritable bowel syndrome and
Crohn's disease DON'T HAVE ENOUGH mucus in their intestines.

--Rich



Posted by George Lagergren


"Tim Campbell" <timcall@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Tim, thanks for posting this info. Mucus within cow's milk
can cause germs to stay within the human body. Thus cow's milk drinkers
may come down with ear infections and strep throats.

Plus, as indicated here, the www.notmilk.com web site regards the heavy,
thick casein protein contained within cow's milk as a de facto "liquid
glue."



Posted by David Wright


In article <NmNde.4921$VL3.300929@news20.bellglobal.com>,
Happy Dog <happydog@sympatico.ca> wrote:
Yes, he does -- if it's labeled as "alternative."

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"His staff loves to say Bush is a man who doesn't know the
meaning of the word 'quit.' Well, apparently he's not all
that conversant with the word 'shame' either." (Will Durst)




Posted by David Wright


In article <AwUde.3552$7F4.2727@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink. net>,
George Lagergren <gel44@earthlink.net> wrote:
No, George, it doesn't. That is a delusion generated from within your
fevered brain (what's left of it).

Non-drinkers of cow's milk often come down with these ailments also.

That Cohen fellow who runs the site appears to have found a fine
companion in you. You're clearly off the deep and and I suspect he is
also. You have to be pretty obsessed to have a site like that.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"His staff loves to say Bush is a man who doesn't know the
meaning of the word 'quit.' Well, apparently he's not all
that conversant with the word 'shame' either." (Will Durst)



Posted by Rich



"David Wright" <wright@l1000.prodigy.net> wrote in message
news:LkXde.606$3b4.168@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com. ..
I think Tim and George need a little casein in their diets . . . they both
seem to have dome unglued.

;o) Rich




Posted by LadyLollipop



"David Wright" <wright@l1000.prodigy.net> wrote in message
news:%iXde.605$3b4.565@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com. ..
Happy calls names, David is a mind reader.






Posted by George Lagergren


"Rich" <joshew@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
That is the point that Tim; Pizza Girl; and I are trying to make.
By not consuming dairy (including cow's milk) products, we have
indeed become "un-glued." We no longer have that thick, heavy casein
protein (a de facto "liquid glue" ???) contained within cow's milk clogging
up our insides.



Posted by David Wright


In article <D95ee.5059$V01.3273@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink. net>,
George Lagergren <gel44@earthlink.net> wrote:
You didn't have that happening before, either. You're assuming that
you did. You are wrong. The casein in milk stays in liquid form in
your body and doesn't turn into glue.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"His staff loves to say Bush is a man who doesn't know the
meaning of the word 'quit.' Well, apparently he's not all
that conversant with the word 'shame' either." (Will Durst)




Posted by Renegade5


On Wed, 04 May 2005 00:17:36 GMT, "George Lagergren"
<gel44@earthlink.net> wrote:

I think I'd make a good case study for milk consumption. I've always
drank tons of milk, for as long as I can remember (I'm 38 now). I've
probably averaged about a litre/quart *PER DAY* (at least for the past
25 years). Wow - thinking about it... 365litres a year * 25-30 years -
that's a *lot* of milk :-)

So far, so good though (strep throat only once that I can remember, no
memorable ear infections).

I'd say my health has always been 'above average', and more recently
'really good' now that I'm trying to eat my "5 a day" (fruits and
veggies), getting a little more sleep, and regular (moderate)
exercise.

I drank full-fat up until about age 18. I switched to 2% once I was
on my own. I drank skim for a few years, and am currently drinking 1%
now.

I drank organic for a year, but am back to 'regular' now (I understand
the mik here, in Canada, isn't as bad as in the US for BGH, etc.)



Posted by Happy Dog


"Renegade5" <Renegade5@Earth.com> wrote in message

You're lying or will be dead in a week. :-)

moo



Posted by George Lagergren



"Renegade5" <Renegade5@Earth.com> wrote in message
news:42792a2a.26717167@nntp.ktchnr.phub.net.cable. rogers.com...
With that much cow's milk drinking, if you do not suffer from
diabetes, you are doing good.
any other health problems like sinus or hayfever conditions?




Posted by George Lagergren


Happy Dog" <happydog@sympatico.ca> replied:
Or maybe some heavy cow's milk male drinkers, like "Renegade5" in
their old age will suffer from prostate cancer???????
==============
In ref to breast cancer, I read a story on the web, where a woman
had breast cancer, and had it removed. But the breast cancer came back.
The woman just happened to read information which said Chinese women have a
low rate of breast cancer and also a low rate of drinking cow's milk.
Anyways, the woman decided to stop her drinking of cow's milk. And
discovered her breast cancer disappeared. Any cause and effect?
Who knows?





Posted by Happy Dog


"George Lagergren" <gel44@earthlink.net> wrote in message
Probably. But it won't have anything to do with their milk consumption.
Oh shut up.

moo



Posted by dwacon



"Tim Campbell" <timcall@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1115135386.890333.322520@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...

Milk = snot?

Yeah, right...



--
The Runaway Bride...
She'll stage a kidnapping to avoid a wedding!
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Posted by David Wright


In article <42792a2a.26717167@nntp.ktchnr.phub.net.cable.roge rs.com>,
Renegade5 <Renegade5@Earth.com> wrote:
Indeed it is. I drink about half as much as you do, but it still adds
up to about a gallon per week in my case.

I haven't had an ear infection since I can remember. I've had a few
sore throats, but most of them were viral.

1% seems to be a reasonable amount. I detest skim.

It varies in the US; some farmers use BGH, some do not. It was a sad
day when it came out -- as if dairy support payments weren't high
enough already...

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"His staff loves to say Bush is a man who doesn't know the
meaning of the word 'quit.' Well, apparently he's not all
that conversant with the word 'shame' either." (Will Durst)




Posted by David Wright


In article <4YAee.4596$7F4.2414@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink. net>,
George Lagergren <gel44@earthlink.net> wrote:
Walt Willett's letter notwithstanding, the connection is not proven.

That often happens whether someone drinks milk or not.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"His staff loves to say Bush is a man who doesn't know the
meaning of the word 'quit.' Well, apparently he's not all
that conversant with the word 'shame' either." (Will Durst)

Posted by Renegade5


On Fri, 06 May 2005 02:50:40 GMT, "George Lagergren"
<gel44@earthlink.net> wrote:

Possibly. I'm not advocating milk, just offering to act as an
experiment :-)

I've thought about giving it up or drinking less when Willett (a
peron's whose views I highly regard) came out with his stance... but I
find it hard to do because it seems to have served me well... it's
almost like turning my back on a faithful friend.

Yes, I need to seek psychiatic help...




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