STEVE BAYT
(Parma/Brook Park, Ohio)


So, this article's research and analysis took much longer than
the objective of 48 hours. For now that millions of Americans have
been brainwashed by the Atkins Low Carb Death Sentence, it's only a
matter of a year or so until the annual 992,000 average American
deaths makes AIDS look like a warm-up act to ARDS-Atkins Related Death
Syndrome.

Heart disease is virtually entirely by eating too much fat
and cholesterol. Other causes comprise a very small percent. So people
can do the math as to how many deaths have been attributed to Atkins
and related diets. As they can do the math for how the death toll will
increase due to Atkins' increased advertising.

The science is unquestioned. Atkins in 35 years has been
condemned and virtually every health and nutrition entity has warned
the media about accepting advertising even implying a Low Carb or
Atkins life style is not a death sentence.

In April 2004 the federal bureau in charge of Beer and Wine
licenses made it illegal for beer, wines or any alcoholic beverage to
even imply that being low carb is healthy. The FDA is presently trying
to make mandatory on all Low Carb products, some sort of disclaimer
about Atkins' fatal consequences and the necessity of consuming at
least 100 mgs of complex carbohydrates a day.

It's rathere symbolic that marketers have recently made up a
term "Carbphoia" as was done with "AIDSphobia". For AIDS And Atkins
pretty much do the same thing both biologically. And Atkins is
presenting the same false immpression that was done with homophobia.

Atkins and Low Carb has more fatal consequences than
cigarette smoking, according to thousands of health entities not
financially connected to Atkins. The marketing for Atkins is the same
type as with smoking. For nearly a half-century cigarette smoking
portrayed as being cool-Joe Camel and The Marlboro Man started in the
early 1950's.

In 1965, a year after the surgeon general's first report on
smoking, the first law was passed to have all cigarette ads and
packages have health warnings. Through the years, the warnings and not
allowed advertising methods have increased. All radio and non-cable
TV stations can't even air commercials for cigarettes according to FCC
regulations.

Yet, millions of people continue to smoke and die.

Press Releases and requests to media outlets from
thousands of health entities to not run Atkins or Low Carb Ads have
produced, well,,, a media that will run anything. Just like TV, radio,
magazines and radio stations glorified smoking, they are now
glorifying the low carb lifestyle (or more appropriately called low
carb death style).

The only thing that can be done in the short term is to
hope that once Atkins sufferers get back to a healthy lifestyle before
there are so many people having heart attacks that America doesn't
have enough doctors and hospitals to deal with them. Of course, 35% of
people who suffer heart attacks, due almost entirely by too much fat
and too few carbs to sustain heart functions, die before even arriving
at the hospital.

Someone who starts on the Atkins Death Sentence today has
about 2-4 years before being near a heart attack. Hopefully, those 65%
who make it to coronary care units will be told by doctors to stop
with Atkins.

Unfortunately, lawsuits are unlikely to prevail against
Atkins due to a legal concept called "Assumption of Risk" which has
for decades protected cigarette companies from having to pay anything.
When the FDA eventually decides on a warning for Atkins similar to the
1994 DSHEA with nutritional supplements, I hope it reads something
like."
EVERY HEALTH AUTHORITY CONDOMNS ATKINS. CONTINUED LOW CARB HIGH FAT
AND PROTEIN DIET WILL RESULT IN MANY POTENTIAL FATAL CONSEQUENCES."

The first warning for cigarettes was fairly lame: "Smoking
may be hazardous to your health." Hopefully, with Atkins the FDA
won't play around with such lame disclaimers and get straight to the
sort of disclaimer mandated in 1978.

Similar to how America learned about terrorism by 911,
Americans (if this Atkins brainwashing continues) will have to ask
whether the first amendment worth millions of Americans suffering
heart attacks, kidney disease, stroke, brain damage and then death.
For the first amendment is what protects the media from running Atkins
adverting. 911 taught us to act proactively to potential threats.
Yet, library shelves are filled with potential health threats,
collecting cobwebs, as was Atkins a year ago.

The media has a choice; each newspaper, TV station
etc. can get millions of dollars in ad revenue or act responsibly.
Tragically, the media's value is to make money instead of helping save
lives.

If the present advertising trend continues, similar to
cigarette smoking, Atkins ads by late 2005 will be replaced with
Public Service Announcements about how "those tens of millions who
have become coronary ticking time bombs can defuse themselves and get
back to a healthy lifestyle."

Of course it wasn't until 1990 until the first PSA
for using condoms was run on a non-cable network (Fox) which at the
time was a very struggling network. By the time Fox ran the first
Condom PSA, 200,000 Americans had already died.

There was a newspaper chain (with tobacco financial
interests) THE MEMPHIS PUBLISING COMPANY that wouldn't run cigarette
ads with the surgeon general warning in the early 1970's. The
Tennessee and US Attorney General had to virtually take over the
newsroom of many Memphis Publishing Company publications to guarantee
ads ran with the warning. (Leech vs. Memphis Publishing Company)

Presently, there is a branch of the Federal Trade
Commission called the National Advertising Review Board that reviews
deceptive ads and if the advertiser is "found guilty" the advertiser
is forced to place corrective advertising.

Based on the pathetic irresponsibility of the media
promoting the Atkins Death Sentence, which could lead to millions of
ARDS. Perhaps the best thing to do would be to fine the media for
running the advertising along with the advertiser.

The fine to the medium (that is a singular noun form
of media referring to a single member of the media) would be twice the
amount that was billed to the advertiser.

It is clear that the media that have barely mentioned
Senate Bill 722 and HR. 3377, which would effectively ban supplements
while promoting Atkins Low Carb, does not deserve the First Amendment.
Through American history a FREE PRESS has had generally more tragedy
than benefit-Pentagon Papers etc.

Similar to cigarette smoking, the Atkins death
sentence takes at least 2 years to prevail. And unlike AIDS there is a
cure. Not one single person who started on the Atkins Low Carb death
style, say about 6 months ago when the advertising rush started has
suffered any permanent health risk and can go back to a low fat, low
cholesterol, high nutrient dense diet without burdening their loved
ones with hospitalization and funerals.

If anything comes of this Atkins epidemic is that
maybe the first amendment might finally be amended. For its hard to
tell which is worse. That Americans can be brainwashed by advertising.
Or that the media ignores lives for money.

Atkins isn't a fad, its potential epidemic. You can get
HIV or other STD;s with one time of unprotected sex. Fortunately, one
can't get ARDS with just one month or even a year of Atkins So, there
is hope…..



Love Means Never Having To Say, You're Sorry….


STEVE BAYT




It's unkown when my next Atkins bashing article will be done. Maybe
not until July 11th.

Steve Randy Shilts Bayt wrote:


Bunch'a Bull ...

The whole story is written with fat phobia dripping from each letter.

Read recent special article in the latest Scientific American special
issue on Longevity. The article on Atherosclerosis is especially
significant. "The long-held conception of how the disease develops turns
out to be wrong."

http://www.sciam.com/special/toc.cfm...sc=rt_nav_list
-------------------------------------------------------------------

Atherosclerosis: The New View by Peter Libby

It causes chest pain, heart attack and stroke, leading to more deaths
every year than cancer. The long-held conception of how the disease
develops turns out to be wrong

Must have been written by an RD. They are so full of stupid advice. Like just eat less calories per day. That advice has condemned millions to yo yo dieting and death from gaining back more weight than they took off.

"Steve Randy Shilts Bayt" <stopsenatebill722@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:ab089dab.0407041333.5e171543@posting.google.c om...
Where is your study? hmmmmmmm
You make a simplistic statement to describe what in fact is a many faceted face of heart disease.
The science is not unquestioned except by you. This diatribe against Atkins seems to be a religion with you.
How fatal is i?. I have been on Atkins for 5 years, no breaks. No fruit or sugar and certainly no starch. I am much stricter than the average Atkins dieter. It is because I need to be in order to maintain a healthy weight. Again that is no starch or sugar in 5 years. I must be dead. Dah. I am in fact healthier by a long shot than when I started with Atkins.
Oh God, Homophobia and carbophobia. The same thing in your mind. You would make a great religious zealot. Maybe your are one. Zealotry has always been unhealthy. Lighten up a little.
Show me the study. These wild statements you make as if they were fact are truly pathetic. A clear sign of wild eyed zealotry.
Dah, It is very very addicting.
I wonder what you think of the high carb death style. It has produced a national epdidemic of type II diabetes. Type II maims and kills.
Show me the study. Just more of the same unsubstantiated drivel. Do you have a brain. Have you ever heard of double blind studies. Do you know that any reputable scientist listens to studies not apocryphal drivel.
Been on it over 5 years, according you you I am dead. My wife has been on it 6 years. She also must be dead. She is actually very much alive downstairs right now.
Who are your health authorities??? You? Again, SHOW ME THE STUDIES!!
There are clear long term studies to substantiate the risk of smoking. There are none that indicate a risk for Atkins.
911 and Atkins, the hysteria is rising.
Sure
Aids and Atkins again. More hysteria. God, get over yourself.
Your obsessive comparison of aids, smoking, and homophobia, with Atkins is very indicative of your lack research, scientific understanding, or any common sense. I can only surmise you are a vegan with an agenda that has nothing to do with our health. Vegans seem to become religious zealots about their life style. Their holier than thou attitude about not eating meat is truly pathetic.
Again, My wife and I must already be dead. Your logic is completely illogical. Maybe you also belong to PETA, another holier than thou assemblage of zealots looking for a cause.
The sugar lobby in congress is far more powerful that Atkins. The Atkins foundation funds no lobbyists in congress, the sugar industry funds many.
There is hope you will adjust to a life without hysteria and zealotry.
I can't wait for your further drivel.

Steve Randy Shilts Bayt wrote:

I always wonder: What do people think the Atkins diet is, exactly?

I'm not on Atkins, but I actually have read the book, and get the gist of
the diet.

It's unfortunate that all kinds of low-carb junk food is in the foreground
of people's minds, due to an overabundance of advertising, and also that
people believe Atkins to be "that all meat diet" in which people kiss
fruits and vegetables goodbye forever (LOL).

Either that or it's that "bacon and eggs and steak" diet.
LOL

--
The post you just read, unless otherwise noted, is strictly my opinion
and experience. Please interpret accordingly.

The "secret" to weight loss is - eat less and exercise.

Sabu

"Crafting Mom" <Crafting.Mom@ohsobogus.address.com> wrote in message
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stopsenatebill722@yahoo.com (Steve Randy Shilts Bayt) wrote in message news:<ab089dab.0407041333.5e171543@posting.google. com>...
I can't figure out if this guy is just a troll pretending to
be really stupid, or if he really is this stupid.

"Tony Lew" <rosescripter@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:5c7896da.0407052244.468c3997@posting.google.c om...
I bet he'd be surprised to find out that what he's full of is somewhat lower
in carbs.

"flashback" <ndcoder@srt.com> wrote in message news:<10eh3bm4s6fe80f@corp.supernews.com>...
I guess he didn't stumble onto the fact that much heart disease is
caused by cigarette smoking in his 48+ hours of "reseasch".
What a moron.

What chaps me is that he's using the name of one of my favorite
non-fiction writers, who's not alive to protest.

In article <5c7896da.0407052244.468c3997@posting.google.com>,
Tony Lew <rosescripter@yahoo.com> wrote:
I think he's really this stupid, based on some other things he's
written, but he's got some other hobbyhorses, in particular a Senate
Bill that he really hates. At first I thought he was some sort of
paid shill who was conducting a for-profit campaign against Senate
Bill SB722, but I'm starting to think he's just a nut.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

Tony Lew wrote:
He appears to be a troll, probably with a vegan political agenda:

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...40yahoo.com%2B

Some religious fanatics can't stand the throught others having
fun so they harangue. Same deal with some vegan political
fanatics who can't can't stand the thought of others eating
meat so they lie.

"Doug Freyburger" <dfreybur@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7960d3ee.0407071224.1d4f9beb@posting.google.c om...
I thought he was a turnip.

M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-July 7, 2004 wrote:
At least when posting on UseNet it is possible to get blood out
of a turnip. Text-only blood, but such is the nature of the
medium. You gotta do it by posting on a low carb newsgroup.

Why is rec.arts.tv in the list? Did this vegan troll guy do an
infomercial or something? This I want to see. A new juicer
that hassles you if you put it close to a steak.

"Doug Freyburger" <dfreybur@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7960d3ee.0407080553.4bee14f2@posting.google.c om...
Stevie and i have had our run-ins. He especially did not appreciate my
comments about SB 722 which set the record straight, and showed that he was
full of...well..he needs a good cleanse....

"flashback" <ndcoder@srt.com> wrote in message
news:10eh3bm4s6fe80f@corp.supernews.com...
Must have been written by an RD. They are so full of stupid advice. Like
just eat less calories per day. That advice has condemned millions to yo yo
dieting and death from gaining back more weight than they took off.

Well in the end it is a matter of deficit, so what does it matter what the
bastardization is?

I don't undestand the meaning of this comment??


"Elvis Parsley" <elvisparsley@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:7HHHc.81$EPp.36@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rog ers.com...

" Not only in research, but also in the everyday world of politics and
economics, we would all be better off if more people realized that simple
nonlinear systems do not nececessarily posses simple dynamical properties."
Biologist Robert Mays from his "messianic" paper in Nature (
1976) "The Mathmatical Intuition"

Thus greenhouse warming may produce another ice age rather than a warmer
climate ( according to many scientists the more likely senario) and women
who consume more calories weigh less than women who practice calorie
reduction (according to the 125,000 women studied by Harvard). Likewise,
calorie burning exercise has been shown to have no effect on weight. Long
term studies of low calorie diet plans show a success rate of 2% ( the same
2% that become anorexix or bulemic on such programs). The average person on
such a program actually gained 15% after two years in these studies.

That so many "weight loss experts" show such innumeracy ( and refuse to
accept my chalange to a swim suit competition) means a great opportunity for
a class action lawsuit similar to the one won by the FTC against the false
claims made by leading calorie reductions plans. Although this legal action
only resulted in these companies adding small print disclaimers to their ads
( results not typical, etc ), I feel feel billions of dollars are still on
the table.

In a resent study adolesent offered an unlimmited buffet ate 30% fewer
calories when offered a high fat selection than a low fat one. Nothing
produces saity faster than fat.

Ray Audette
Author "NeanderThin"
www.NeanderThin.com

"flashback" <ndcoder@srt.com> wrote in message
news:10euunqc6bvv3c4@corp.supernews.com...
Okay, what's the difference from what standpoint the person gains back the
weight? Whether it's eating to much coming off (or staying on for that
matter) a low-fat or low-carb diet, the result is the same.

There is a huge difference. No one will stay on a restricted calorie diet.
You cannot lose weight be limiting fat intake and still eating until you are
full. Low fat diets only work to lose weight when you also restrict portions
i.e. caloric intake. So, restricted caloric intake produces a yo yo weight
situation with each upward movement an increase over the beginning weight.
This is a fact that RDs refuse to accept or even discuss.

The result is not the same for low carb versus low fat.. Restricting caloric
intake (being hungry) can only be maintained for a limited amount of time.
The amount of time depends on each individual. But the longest I have ever
seen was two years. I watched a co-worker go on ultra slim fast for 5
months. His was the worst example of rebound weight gain I had ever seen. He
went 110 pounds over where he started.

It is relatively easy for a person to stay on Atkins for life. My wife has
been on it for 6 years. I have been doing it for 5 years. We have never
"gone off" this diet.

As I am sure you must know, eating the Atkins way is pretty easy. My wife is
very creative with her cooking and we eat very well. Why would I ever want
to quit this diet?


"Elvis Parsley" <elvisparsley@rogers.com> wrote in message
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Some people can eat next to nothing, run around after 3 toddlers and
lose nothing (like me). I actually have to eat more to lose weight.
Ironic, huh? :-)

JG




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