I am transferring a title on a car that I own out of state to a person that
bought the car, i live in Kentucky and am transferring the title to Ohio,
what do I need to have in the way of paperwork?? Any feedback would be
appreciated.

Just the title as far as I remember. I've bought a car a few years ago from
a Kentucky resident and all I had to do when I got the car in Ohio was have
it inspected. That consisted of a dealership stepping on the brakes to see
if it had any, check the lights and horn. And I think that was it. It's
mainly the buyers responsibility to get the car registered in their state.

Brian

"none" <no@no.no> wrote in message news:THa0c.81760$4o.105173@attbi_s52...

On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 00:50:59 GMT, "none" <no@no.no> wrote:

states...HOWEVER if I purchased the car from you all that you would
need to do is to sign over the title (space usually provided on the
back) hand the title to me and the deal is done.... That is all that
is required...

A bill of sale is not even needed ....But if you read the thread on
the DMV then you know I would request a notarized bill of sale for a
very low sales price ..just to avoid getting ripped off by the State
of Maryland's" DMV


Bob Griffiths

DO NOT do as this post suggest, it's NOT legal and will void the
title!! Think about it, if I had your title I could sign your
name and sell your car! If you could do that every guy getting
divorced would get the car as well by signing his wife's name..
ANY title not signed in the presence of an authorized transfer
agent is invalid, anyone who tells you differently does not know
what they are taking about. You need to go before an authorized
transfer agent in Kentucky, provide proof that you are the person
that owns the vehicle and sign the transfer section of the title
in their presence. They will issue you a certificate of transfer
and issue a temporary transit tag to the buyer. The buyer must
then present that transfer certificate and the Kentucky tile to
the DMV, or an authorized agent, in Ohio to obtain a title and
registration in that state.


"Bob G." wrote:

Most states only require the seller to have the title signed in front of a
notary that you are selling the vehicle and proves you are the owner and
that the title is free from liens. Then it's your responsibility as the
seller to make sure that the buyer signs and dates the purchased by line in
your presence.
Think about what you said, why would a person from Ohio buying a car from
someone in Kentucky want a Kentucky temporary license plate? First of all
it wouldn't be legal as he isn't a resident of Kentucky.

I've bought and sold a lot of cars and all you need is to have a notary
witness the signing of your name to sell. That in fact tells the buyer that
you are the legal owner. Then when the buyer puts it in there name they have
the process witnessed by a state title agent.

A bill of sale with buyer and seller information is usually a good deal so
that the buyer and seller are in agreement of the selling price.
I just sold a car to a man from Illinois and I'm from Ohio. Both Ohio and
Illinois will let you drive the vehicle home with no tags as long as you
have a signed notarized title from the seller and a bill of sale. Both dated
the day you are driving it home. Also proof of an auto insurance policy is
required.

You guys are making this complicated when it isn't.

Brian

<MajorDomo@mailcity.com> wrote in message
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Most states only require the seller to have the title signed in front of a
notary that you are selling the vehicle and proves you are the owner and
that the title is free from liens. Then it's your responsibility as the
seller to make sure that the buyer signs and dates the purchased by line in
your presence.
Think about what you said, why would a person from Ohio buying a car from
someone in Kentucky want a Kentucky temporary license plate? First of all
it wouldn't be legal as he isn't a resident of Kentucky.

I've bought and sold a lot of cars and all you need is to have a notary
witness the signing of your name to sell. That in fact tells the buyer that
you are the legal owner. Then when the buyer puts it in there name they have
the process witnessed by a state title agent.

A bill of sale with buyer and seller information is usually a good deal so
that the buyer and seller are in agreement of the selling price.
I just sold a car to a man from Illinois and I'm from Ohio. Both Ohio and
Illinois will let you drive the vehicle home with no tags as long as you
have a signed notarized title from the seller and a bill of sale. Both dated
the day you are driving it home. Also proof of an auto insurance policy is
required.

You guys are making this complicated when it isn't.

Brian

<MajorDomo@mailcity.com> wrote in message
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Sorry for double posting.....
Brian

<MajorDomo@mailcity.com> wrote in message
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Sorry for double posting.....
Brian

<MajorDomo@mailcity.com> wrote in message
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You certainly are entitled to you opinion but what I posted is
PRECISELY correct. A Notary Public IS an AUTHORIZED transfer
agent. Yes the resident of ANY state can obtain a 'transit' tag
in another state. That is the purpose of a 'transit' tag, as
opposed to a 'temporary' residences tag.. Our fleet service
business operates in six eastern states, we do things like this
almost daily when individuals buy used fleet vehicles and need to
drive them to other states.


mike hunt



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NOT LEGAL... ??? I am in my 60's and have purchased and sold
enough cars in my lifetime that I can say it is 100 percent legal...
I live in Maryland and have both sold and purchased cars from the
surronding states this way...never once have I had any problems...NONE
ZIP NATA... 30 years or so ago you did need the bill of sale to be
notarized...but in the last 20 or so years that is no longer
required...

Just speaking from my experince with dealing with the
Maryland DMV as a buyer ...have never head from anyone out of state
who bought a car from me having trouble on getting a new title from
Virginia, West Vorginia, Pennasylvania, or Deleware...

Bob Griffiths
68 SS 396 Chevelle
64 & 72 Corvette Convertibles
76 79 & 95 Corvette Coupes...




29 Feb 2004 09:28:42 -0500, MajorDomo@mailcity.com wrote:

You certainly are entitle to you opinion but from what you say I
can only assume you have been lucky, dealing with shysters or
just plain BS'ing us. No transfer agent in Pa, NJ, NY, Dl or MD
would accept a title for transfer, from those states or any other
state, that was not signed by the demonstrative legal owner in
their PRESENCE. Each of those state require any agent, presented
with an 'Open Title,' one not signed by a person know to them as
the legal owner, to be void and must be confiscated and returned
to the issuing agency. There are fines for the agent, seller and
buyer for doing so.. I would suggest you search the government
sites in any of those states, for conformation. Title 75, the
'Pennsylvania Motor Vehicle Code,' chapters #11, #14 and #71 in
particular, is one example.


mike hunt



"Bob G." wrote:

On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 15:04:19 -0500, MajorDomo@mailcity.com wrote:

============And you are also entitled to you opinions ...no argument
on this point at all...

I can only assume you have been lucky, dealing with shysters or
============= Not lucky nor am I bullshitting anyone...have no need to
do that...
No transfer agent in Pa, NJ, NY, Dl or MD
============ Sorry but you are wrong...in fact I honestly never4 heard
of a transfer agent... unless that is what you call the clerk at
window 10 at the Maryland Dept of Motor Vehicles...




Each of those state require any agent, presented

=======================Well what can I say...I have sold dozens of
cars and purchased at least as many from private sellers from those
States and I never had to drag the seller in front of anyone..your
transfer agent or that clerk at the Maryland DMV ... of the cars I
sold to residents of the other States I can only say I have never been
contacted by any of the buyers nor by the Dept of Motor Vehicles in
those States or Mary lands'......just have to assume the buyers got a
new title with as much ease as I have when I purchased a car from a
private citizen in those other States...


There are fines for the agent, seller and
====================Mike I will do that.... BUT the last car I sold
was sold only 3 months ago to a guy who lives in Hanover Penna...(sold
him a Fiero) and I know he now has the car licensed in Penna had
absolutely no trouble getting a title ...

The last car I bought from a Penna Resident was my 79 Corvette which I
bought in the late 80's again all I did was walk into the Maryland DMV
with the title (signed on the back by the seller) and I got a new
title in the mail within a few weeks from the State of Maryland . The
licence tags were handed to me at the window of the DMV on the day I
was there....

Like I said I am not bullshitting you ... At 61, retired, with 7
personal vehicles in the garage plus the wives vehicles I just have no
damn reason to bullshit anyone...

Bob Griffiths

mike, I am not sure where you are, but here in New Jersey , we do not have
transfer agents, we have something called the New Jersey division of motor
vehicles. whenever you want to do anything related to a motor vehicle ,you
go to a dmv office. to sell a car you simply fill out the back of the title
completely, and hand it over to the buyer. after that you are done. it is
recommended that you keep a copy of all the buyers information though. a
bill of sale is no good in jersey, if you do not have a title, you can not
transfer ownership. then only time you need to notarize anything is if you
are doing power of attorney, that needs to be notarized. just last week,
standing at the counter, I was handed a title, signed it, as seller and
buyers name, handed it back to the girl, and 10 min later I was walking out
the door with a car registered from a company name to my neighbors name with
new plates. as far as selling to someone you do not know, in the past year I
have bought and sold over 20 cars and trucks, and never did I have to do
anything other than properly fill out the paperwork.
<MajorDomo@mailcity.com> wrote in message
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I'm not going to continue a debate with you, I'm 78 and spent 10
years as Group Sales Manager for one of the largest
megadealerships on the east cost, I know the law as it applies to
registration of motor vehicles in the states I mentioned. You
can do whatever you wish, I could not care less. What I am
trying to do is impart to the poster is that what you are doing
is NOT legal and outright foolish. The poster can do as he
wishes as well, I just hope he does not take your advise and
corrupts his title by simply signing it and handing it to the
buyer. The signature in the sellers section of the title must be
notarized to be sure it is the signature of the actual owner.
The only way to do that is for the seller(s) to appear in front
of a Notary Public or a DMV agent. How else would a DMV agent
possibly know who signed the title? How would the seller know
the buyer will actually pay the transfer fees and transfer the
title, pay the sales taxes or obtain insurance? The fact is a
seller can not know for sure unless the title is transferred
legally after those requirement are met. If one simply signs and
hands away the title to the buyer they open themselves to all
kinds of problems if the buyer has an accident with a vehicle
that is still legally registered to the seller. We had a sales
manger in one of our stores, who should have known better, that
allowed the husband to sign his wife's name on the title of a two
year old luxury vehicle that he was trading on another luxury
vehicle. He foolishly notarized both signatures. A few days
later the attorney of the wife, who was divorcing him, gave me a
call.
We had to pay her over $22,000, 50% of the value of the vehicle
plus legal fees. An old adage says 'know you endorser,' never
sign a title away, period.



mike hunt




"Bob G." wrote:

I'm in Delaware right now but your kidding right? That is what I
have been saying all alone, go to an authorized transfer agent
whoever that may be in your area, the DMV is a transfer agent
but not the only place in NJ. You can transfer at a new car
dealership or used car lot, they are authorized agents as well.
So is a Notary Public but you can't legally simply hand a signed
title to the seller without going before one of those agents, and
that has been my point. ;)


mike hunt



Tom Cohan wrote:

On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 18:07:19 -0500, MkeHunt@lycos.com wrote:

Mike:
I am not going to debate you either...

I will thank you for being rather civil in our disagreement ..

All I can say is that what I said is completely true and I have never
had a problem ... been 20+ years since I purchased a car from a dealer
or traded one it however.. all my dealing have been with private
citizens and with titles that did not have a lein attached...

Enjoy..

Bob Griffiths

It must vary from state to state. Missouri has not required that these be
certified for some time now. Below is from their web site.

To title a motor vehicle in the state of Missouri, the owner must submit the
following:

1.. An Application for Missouri Title and License, form DOR-108. The
application must list a Missouri address and be signed by the applicant.
(Carefully read the instructions on the reverse side of the application to
ensure proper completion.)
2.. An ownership document. The assignment is not required to be notarized on
unless an out-of-state title is submitted from a state that requires a notary
seal and the seller is not a Missouri dealer.

<MkeHunt@lycos.com> wrote in message news:4043C928.C9929033@lycos.com...

Tanks for helping to make my point with your post which said:

"the OWNER must submit the following: etc." not the BUYER and
that was my point..


mike hunt



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