Hello,

Just visited a new doc. Fed up with the last one. Well, this one
diagnosed gout instead of sero-neagtive RA. I agree with this
diagnosis more as my uric acids are always elevated. Just wondering
though that i dont exhibit any of the classical symptoms like pain in
the big toe etc. I discussed this with doc but he said that its not
necessary that these symptoms always show up. Anyway have been
prescribed a variety of NSAIDS like Vioxx and Distalgesic in addition
to Allopurinol and a multivitamin. Lets hope this works.

Anyway i need more info about Gout, its symptoms, treatments, risks
etc. Please let me know any good informative websites.

Also i would love to hear from people who have suffered from this
disease.

Thanks!

I'm a newbie and this is my first post, but I do have gout. I am the rare
pre-menopausal female with gout. I do have the typical big toe pain from
time to time, and it is very painful. My main symptom is recurrent kidney
stones (uric acid stones)...has your doc done a 24 urine on you? If you
start having kidney symptoms, that may be helpful. I take allopurinol,
Bextra, and see a rhuematologist and nephrologist...(but there are other
health issues, like Lupus).

I have learned...go straight to the doc if you have an attack. I thought I
would wait it out...well silly me...there is medicine they will give that
will give you relief speedily. Watch your diet. My last attack was after a
BBQ Brisket 3 day binge during Memorial day holiday...I will NOT be doing
that again. And drink LOTS of water (not soda or tea) to help your kidneys
flush out the uric acid. Once I started on the allopurinol the kidney
stones have slowed down and my toe pain has only occurred during that
holiday.

Well, I hope this helps. I have lots of male family members with gout and
can easily see how caring for yourself makes a difference. My father takes
great care of himself and does what he is supposed to concerning his gout
and now seldom has an attack, and yet my uncle suffers nearly daily and is
almost unable to walk due to the fact he refuses help for his gout.

Thought I would share,
Janet

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Hi,,,, Here is information from a past post in this newsgroup.

Gareth Slee wrote:



From the Arthritis Foundation:


In gout, certain chemical processes in the body are out of control.
One of these affects uric acid, a normal waster product that comes
from the breakdown of substances called purines, which are found in
many foods as well as in all the cells of the body.

Uric acid usually circulates in the blood until it is passed into
urine through the kidneys. People with gout have too much uric acid
in their blood, a condition called hyperuricemia. The uric acid
changes into crystals (urate crystals) that deposit in joints and
other tissues.

Some of these crystals may then then fall from the joint lining into
the fluid-filled space within the joint or else form in the joint
fluid itself.

These free urate crystams trigger a severe inflammatory reaction,
the accute attack of gout arthritis. An attack can be triggered by
drinking or eating too much, by surgery, by "crash" diets, and
occasionally by trauma to a joint.

Uric acid crystals can collect in the urine, forming gravel or stones.
This development happens most often in people who pass too little
fluid from thier bodies. People with gout may ahve high blood
pressure or kidney infections, both of which can cause kidney damage.
Thus, the physician must watch for the teltale signs of such damage
and begin proper treatment if necessary.

MEDICATION

Three kinds of medication are used in treating gout. One catagory
(Colchicine, and certain NAISDs) controls the inflammation, A second
catagory, uricosuric agents, increased the body's ability to eliminate
uric acid by way of the urine, thus lowering the amount of uric acid
in the blood. The third kind of medication (allopurinol) decreases
uric acid levels in the blood by reducing the rate at which the body
produces it.

DIET

Myths abound concering the relationship between diet and gout.
HERE ARE THE FACTS:

1. A person who is overweight should develop a weight-loss
program under a doctor's supervision. The person should not
fast or try to diet too severily.
2. Because a few foods tend to raise the uric acid level in the
blood, a doctor may caution a person with gout to avoid
eating them. These foods include organ meats such as kidneys,
liver, and sweetbreads, as well as sardines, anchovies and meat
extracts.
3. A person with gout does NOT need to avoid coffee and tea.
Alcohol consumed in moderation (i.e., about two ounces of hard
liquor, a can of beer, or a glass of wine per day) is permitted.
4. A high daily intake of non-alcoholic fluids is recommended (a
minimum of two quarts).




RELATIVE PURINE CONTENT OF COMMON FOODS

GROUP A: (Foods with a high purine concentration)
Liver Gravies Sweetbreads Broths
Mussels Fish roe Anchovies Kidney
Sardines Brains Herring Heart

GROUP B: (Foods with a moderate purine concentration)
Meats Peas Lentils Mushrooms
Yeast Beans Spinish Cauliflower
Fowl Fish Asperagus Whole grain cereals

GROUP C: (Foods with negligible amounts of purine)
Fruits Milk Cheese Eggs
Spices and condiments (including salt and vinegar)
Refined cereals and cereal products
Butter and fats (in moderation) Nuts
Sugar and sweets Clear vegetable soups
Vegetables (except as noted above)

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Med Hypotheses. 1999 Nov;53(5):407-12. Related Articles, Links


Effect of gradual accumulation of iron, molybdenum and sulfur, slow depletion
of zinc and copper, ethanol or fructose ingestion and phlebotomy in gout.

Johnson S.

Gout affects mostly males over 40 years old and, occasionally, postmenopausal
women. This pattern coincides with the pattern of iron accumulation. On the
other hand, menstruating women are seldom afflicted by gout, because the
monthly blood loss causes them to accumulate iron to a much lesser degree. Gout
involves seven aspects: (1) uric acid overproduction from increased purines in
the diet; (2) uric acid overproduction from ATP degradation; (3) uric acid
overproduction from increased de novo synthesis of purines; (4) uric acid
overproduction from increased DNA breakdown from cell damage; (5) decreased
uric acid elimination, caused by molybdenum and sulfur binding to copper in the
kidneys; (6) precipitation of sodium urate-iron crystals in the joints due to
high ferritin and saturated transferrin and low CuZn-SOD and Cu-thionein in the
joint; (7) development of inflammation, triggered by tyrosine bonding to the
sodium-urate-iron crystals and being transformed by tyrosine kinase. Alcohol
and iron greatly affect most of these aspects. Therefore, phlebotomy is
suggested as therapy for gout patients, in order to eliminate the accumulated
Fe. Furthermore, yearly blood donation is recommended for males with a family
history of gout, so as to prevent Fe accumulation and avoid gout.

PMID: 10616042 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

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